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Le Tragique Destin D'Anakin Skywalker

Another show of hands: Who's read the Star Wars Episode III novel by Michael Stover?
I rather liked it, and it gave me hopes for the film that I see may not be unfounded.

scionofgrace has some cogent comments in this post about Palpatine's rise to power, which I have been recommending to people:
I was thinking to myself how it could be possible that the Emperor could topple a thousand-plus-year-old Republic and take out the entire Jedi Order, and then be defeated twenty-some years later by a rag-tag Alliance. I think it has to do with his position in the situation. The rise of the Empire was all down to his infiltration of the both the Republic and the order. He knew exactly what he was getting into and could infect it all from the inside. And he had some fifteen years (or more) to do it.

But once his plan was ripe, he couldn't hide any more. He could no longer act from behind the scenes, and by his very triumph he made himself a target of every right-thinking being in the galaxy. The Alliance knew exactly what they would have to do to win. And they had several advantages the Emperor didn't know about, or underestimated. Luke and Leia had grown up free from his influence, and could not be seduced as easily as Vader. Kenobi and Yoda, even after death, could do all kinds of damage just by their influence. Most of all, some part of Vader still remembered what it was to be Anakin Skywalker.

Luke was right. Overconfidence was Palpatine's weakness. The Light Side really was stronger, and he didn't see it until it threw him down a reactor shaft.


Equally so, the selfsame overconfidence made him chop open the goose that laid the golden egg, and discover... nothing.

In other news, Tripitaka theorizes that Anakin is a clone of Darth Plagueis. It's more than farfetched; I know of no basis in canon, and you might think that Palpatine could do better than to seed the clone of the master he murdered on a "backwater" Outer Rim planet. Is the implication really that Plagueis "virtually fathered" Anakin using midichlorians? This didn't come out in the book, and I haven't seen the film yet.

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Banazir

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mrowe
Jun. 4th, 2005 09:51 am (UTC)
Is the implication really that Plagueis "virtually fathered" Anakin using midichlorians? This didn't come out in the book, and I haven't seen the film yet.

In short, yes.
banazir
Jun. 4th, 2005 03:04 pm (UTC)
Virtual midichlorian bebes
... so what's the idea? That Shmi was the object of some Sith experiment or ritual?

That icon... does Yoda actually say that in the film?

And who is the big Wookiee? Chewie's father Itchy? Or someone else?

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Banazir
eightdaysofrain
Jun. 4th, 2005 03:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Virtual midichlorian bebes
That icon... does Yoda actually say that in the film?
Good relations with wookies, have I

Yes he does .. but since you haven't seen the film yet I won't say much more.
banazir
Jun. 4th, 2005 04:08 pm (UTC)
Good relations with Wookiees
Actually, I was just about to go see it!

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Banazir
mrowe
Jun. 4th, 2005 03:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Virtual midichlorian bebes
.. so what's the idea? That Shmi was the object of some Sith experiment or ritual?
Nothing that explicit; Palpatine says that Plagueis was so powerful he could even create life from midichlorians (not an exact quote); it's pretty much 'connect the dots' even in the film and no, that is NOT a Star Wars plotbunny nibbling at my ankl Aaargh, getoff!getoff!!getoff!!!, though as far as I'm concerned all the dots to connect are there, especially if you also take into account what was said in I/II about Anakin not having a father. That doesn't rule out the clone-option, but him being Force-born is imho a much better option (and I can't help drawing parallels with Amberverse, as far as there being a *balance* between the two sides of the Force is concerned - it's as bad for the Force to be overbalanced towards the Jedi as for it to be overbalanced towards the Sith).

Yes, Yoda does say that, and no, I can't recall the identity of the big Wookiee (and that sounds completely wrong somehow), or even if he is named. I think I may have to see the film again;-)
vretallin
Jun. 4th, 2005 02:51 pm (UTC)
I don't think he is a clone of darth plagueis, I think Palpatine, or his master, was engineering a strong force user and shmi just happened to be the woman Palpatine wound up using and blocked her memories of it. Hence the hated immaculate conception deal.
banazir
Jun. 4th, 2005 03:10 pm (UTC)
The "immaculate" conception of Anakin Skywalker
Well, as for "immaculate"... not so much. It doesn't have to be a sex-free conception for Anakin to have been midichlorian-conceived through a Sith ritual of some kind. I guess the real question is whether a Sith, Darth Plagueis, is also the canonical genetic parent of Anakin and ancestor of Luke, Leia, Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo.

On the one hand, that would be interesting. On the other, the "small universe" think is really starting to get on my nerves (and I have a pretty high tolerance for serendipitous or retconned "cameos"). At least he isn't Palpatine's son for sure. Now, what would really tick me off is if some years from now, they edited that in like a Greedo blaster shot.

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Banazir
borgseawolf
Jun. 5th, 2005 11:48 am (UTC)
Re: The "immaculate" conception of Anakin Skywalker
You mean Palpatine is Greedo's father? These genealogies are too confusing...

BTW, I hope everyone realizes that Mace Windu is father to Lando Carlissian? :)
banazir
Jun. 13th, 2005 03:07 pm (UTC)
It's a Small Galaxy Far, Far Away
You mean Palpatine is Greedo's father? These genealogies are too confusing...
"I've been waiting a long time for this... BROTHER..."

BTW, I hope everyone realizes that Mace Windu is father to Lando Carlissian? :)
LOL, case in point.

"It's not my FAULT!"

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Banazir
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