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banazir Brand Frozen Concentrated Brain Packs

I always knew I have a lot of smart friends, but it seems I have quite a few with a lot of credentials.
People on my friends list who have a doctorate or the terminal degree in their fields include:

  • azhure - Ph.D. in immunology/molecular biology/microbiology

  • dextertech - MFA 2000, Washington State University; assistant professor, Department of Art and Art History, Virginia Tech

  • hpguo - Ph.D. 2003 Computer Science, Kansas State University; assistant professor of computer science, United International College of China

  • neonpainter - MLA, Kansas State University; research assistant professor of Landscape Architecture (College of Architecture, Planning, and Design), director, Krider Visual Resource and Learning Center, Kansas State University


Other people who are faculty members (including instructors) or in doctoral programs:

  • butterflykiki - not sure: physics?

  • jereeza - Assistant, Art History Department, University of Rijeka; MA University College London [edited 10:20 CST Mon 31 Oct 2005]

  • kakarigeiko - Ph.D. student, Computer Science, Carnegie-Mellon University

  • oskeladden - Lecturer and J.D. candidate, Norwich Law School, University of East Anglia

  • prolog - Ph.D. student, Computer Science, Carleton University

  • spoothbrush - Ph.D. student, Cognitive Psychology, SUNY-Binghamton [added 10:05 CST Mon 31 Oct 2005]

  • susanjacobsen - Lecturer and Ph.D. candidate, Journalism (School of Communications and Theater), Temple University

  • zerovector - Ph.D. student, Statistics, Rice University [edited 10:10 CST Mon 31 Oct 2005]



There are lots of up-and-coming people on my friends list:



Who have I missed?

What do you all think of your degrees?
Are they "union cards" to you? Something important to show for the work you have done? A means to an end? Just pieces of paper? All of the above?

--
Banazir

Comments

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thanatos_kalos
Oct. 31st, 2005 11:08 am (UTC)
My degree means I can get a job in my field. :P Oh, and brainwash educate the next generation of archaeologists into understanding why the past is so important.
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 11:10 am (UTC)
Tres bien!
Indoctrination is a good thing (see icon). :-D

How've you been?

Happy All Hallows, teuncy Beltaine, and Nanowrimo greetings!

--
Banazir
thanatos_kalos
Oct. 31st, 2005 11:22 am (UTC)
Re: Tres bien!
Indoctrination is a good thing (see icon). :-D

it certainly is. (you are getting very sleepy...)

How've you been?

insanely busy, and cut off from the internet except at the university.

Happy All Hallows, teuncy Beltaine, and Nanowrimo greetings!

danke!
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 11:27 am (UTC)
Re: Tres bien!
it certainly is. (you are getting very sleepy...)
*ywan*
I am, at that!

G'night!

Wish you much intarweb,
Banazir
thanatos_kalos
Oct. 31st, 2005 11:41 am (UTC)
Re: Tres bien!
it certainly is. (you are getting very sleepy...)
*ywan*
I am, at that!


::g::

G'night!

night!

Wish you much intarweb,

danke!
banazir
Nov. 1st, 2005 04:24 am (UTC)
Sleep dep strikes again
13 hours in 3 days will do that!

I just noticed I said "Beltaine" above. Wow.
Ah meant Samhain, of course. Anyhow, have a good Lal Halloos Eve!

--
Banazir
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casecob
Oct. 31st, 2005 01:51 pm (UTC)
I'm in the midst of applying to PhD programs in computational biology / bioinformatics.

My current list of schools are:
MIT
UCSF
Scripps
Rockefeller
Cornell
UCSD
BU
NIH
CMU/U of Pitt
CWRU

I hope I get in somewhere!
I have 2 publications and a 3.89 GPA... and... and... I did okay on the GREs.... and... and..

DO YOU THINK I'LL GET IN ANYWHERE?
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 03:59 pm (UTC)
Good list - some advice
Hi, casecob. Here's my take a grad admissions reviewer and faculty member in a nascent bioinformatics program.

How about Buffalo and Iowa State?

How OK is a OK GRE? 700 V, 700 Q, 4.0 A?

Any subject test? Is your curriculum balanced between biology and CS? (I think being strong in CS is more important for bioinformatics.)

What are the 2 publications? Strongly refereed conferences?
ISMB or RECOMB? (Then yes.)

Are you at Case Western or Cleveland State? If CWRU is your alma mater, it may or may not be a good safety. I usually tell people to think of their alma mater as a "poor safety": they may prefer to send you elsewhere, and you should want to go elsewhere.

By NIH, do you mean National Institutes of Health?

All other things being equal, I think your list of 10 places is good, and that you have a good chance with the above record. The universities you list are all very competitive, to the point where just about everybody has a 3.7 - 4.0 GPA, but publications always help. Be sure to write a summary page of your publications and make your statement of purpose stand out by pointing out what is technically deep and novel about your curriculum and research background, not just spouting buzzwords.

BTW, Simon Kasif (head of BU Bioinformatics) was one of my mentors as an undergrad. He's good, he likes and cares about his subject (bioinformatics and intelligent systems), and he's got a big, healthy group up there; I think you'll like it if you get in and decide to go.

--
Banazir
casecob
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Good list - some advice
"How OK is a OK GRE? 700 V, 700 Q, 4.0 A?"
770 Q
540 V (UGHHHH)
5.0 A

Publications:
Chemical Phsyics Letters
Also in conference proceedings for Neurosciences, I'm 2nd author on that too, and it recieved a kind-of award already.

I'm at CWRU, and I do not want to stay here. It's my safety. Mark Adams, my PI, would have me stay, and he was cofounder of Celera Genomics and 2nd author on the Human Genome Project.

You are correct about NIH. It is the National Institutes of Health - they know have a PhD program but you have to go thorugh an affiliated Uni. For me, that's BU. To be honest, I'm really more interested in signal transduction and network modeling, which I know I'll be able to get at far and away most of these institutions. But not all.

My educational background is bio major, minors in math, computer science, and chemistry. I've had a bit of CS. Wish I had taken algorithms formally, instead of fumbling though it via other coursework. Easily my biggest regret.

My SOP talks about my previous research and how it got me to my current interests, and what i want to do in academia. But I try to be light-hearted about it.

"My scientific career when I blew up an autoclave" etc...
casecob
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Good list - some advice
Oh yeah, and I'm planning on the bio subject test (which no one requires but UCSF) and I imagine I'll do pretty well.

>90%
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:18 pm (UTC)
That's plenty good enough
I got 72nd %ile on my first CS GRE, and got into Brown; I got 86th %ile on the second taking and got into UIUC.

--
Banazir
casecob
Oct. 31st, 2005 07:57 pm (UTC)
Re: That's plenty good enough
You think my general scores are high enough though, or no?
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 10:58 pm (UTC)
540V should be OK
I've heard of cutoffs of 400 in engineering programs; 500 should be safe.

Ours are:

EECE: Minimum required scores on the GRE are: Verbal - 400; Quantitative - 600; Analytical Writing - 4.5
CIS: For M.S. and Ph.D. applicants; minimum GRE scores of 400/400 Verbal, 650/700 Quantitative, and 4.0/4.5 Analytical Writing

--
Banazir
spoothbrush
Oct. 31st, 2005 02:29 pm (UTC)
I'm a PhD student in cognitive psychology at SUNY-Binghamton.

I will know what I think of the degree when I actually get it... right now I'm too immersed in everything. My reaction to getting the masters was "what a relief!", but that's somewhat different.
orangerful
Oct. 31st, 2005 02:41 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the getting of the degree. I love to learn and wish it wasn't so darn expensive to go to college, cuz I'd just love to go there for fun. I majored in American Studies with the emphasis on Pop Culture and Communications. I sorta just stumbled into it when an AMST professor looked at my transcript the last half of my 2nd year and pointed out pretty much every course I had taken counted towards that major. At the time, I thought I wanted to be a DJ (or "radio personality") but later I decided that wasn't for me (after actually working at a station). But I find it also comes in very handy at the library, since it's just a nice all encompassing liberal arts major.

I'm actually pondering going back for my Masters in Library Science very soon. Just have to figure out which program I want to go for. I want the piece of paper so they can hire me for the better full-time positions, plus I'd like to have a little more training now that I've decided that I want to do this as a carreer.
prophetum
Oct. 31st, 2005 03:21 pm (UTC)
I usually have circa 37 degrees Celsius. This is pretty average, I think.

In terms of university degrees, I usually get kicked out of universities before I can graduate. Nevertheless I am, of course, the smartest person in the world. Usually I just make up a lot of titles to impress other people.
zerovector
Oct. 31st, 2005 03:42 pm (UTC)
All of the above.

I wish I could say I was getting a PhD in computer science, but it's Statistics :)

I'm sure CS is much more difficult.

But I'm honored to be on your list!
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)
D'oh! I knew that...
Must have been cut-and-pastitis.

My list just goes to show that I have good taste in friends, word.

As cavlec has noted before, though: having a Ph.D. or being on the way to earning one is no bellwether of intelligence, not even "career progress". It just means you've jumped through the hoops, however they have been arbitarily set. Soemtimes it matters more that you got into a good program and have a strong, solid curriculum. Certainly it's more about what you really know and what you can do.

That said, good luck with your program, and enjoy it!

--
Banazir
mapjunkie
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:19 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, this is inaccurate, for me. I am going for my PhD eventually, although not necessarily at UIUC. I'd like to finish up my masters, first. I working as a Research Engineer at Riverglass Analytics. Academia has been very unfriendly to me...
cretaceousrick
Oct. 31st, 2005 05:27 pm (UTC)
Are the chronologically different always so invisible?
I fully intend to get my doctorate in some aspect of the life sciences, possibly paleontology. It might take me a while, because I intend to feed a family along the way, but one day it'll happen. Then you'll see. Then you'll ALL see.
gondhir
Oct. 31st, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
Re: Are the chronologically different always so invisible?
Ah, cool. I used to be a paleontologist wannabe myself.
cretaceousrick
Oct. 31st, 2005 06:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Are the chronologically different always so invisible?
I think a good many people used to be.
twinbee
Oct. 31st, 2005 05:28 pm (UTC)
I should (hopefully) have an MS in CS in May
banazir
Oct. 31st, 2005 06:30 pm (UTC)
And then?
Ph.D. in CS after that?

--
Banazir
twinbee
Oct. 31st, 2005 06:36 pm (UTC)
Re: And then?
yep, but possibly elsewhere ;-)
prolog
Oct. 31st, 2005 09:28 pm (UTC)
degrees suck
Let me explain.

Each degree I earn brings me closer to becoming a professor.

In a way, this is good. I will actually be able to squirrel away some money, buy a house, and generally do things I can't do on $10k/year (have a normal life, for example :P). I'm super-good at saving money, so I can't wait to see what I can do with a professor's salary.

But it's also bad. While I get to do all the fun stuff I get to do as a student (yay learning! yay research!), I also have to deal with writing lots of grant applications, dealing with administrative stuff, and so on. Some profs might include teaching on this list, but not me. I'm looking forward to that. Had I not had excellent teachers in both high school (thanks, Mr. Koroluk!) and my first year of university, which really are formulative times, I'd probably be doing a Ph.D. in English or Music History instead.

Bring on the Intro to CS courses!

I think my girlfriend and family are more proud of my degrees than me. My parents threw me one hell of a party after I finished my M.Sc. defense, and my girlfriend's quite insistent that I buy a really nice frame for my master's (I was going to buy the $3.50 WalMart variety). To me, the degrees just signify that I've been in school for a while, and am not incompetent.
mapjunkie
Nov. 1st, 2005 02:12 pm (UTC)
Re: degrees suck
and that your advisor isn't incompetent.

Oh, wait, did I say that out loud...
gondhir
Nov. 1st, 2005 03:38 pm (UTC)
Re: degrees suck
Or that you're smarter than your advisor.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, advise.
mapjunkie
Nov. 1st, 2005 04:23 pm (UTC)
Re: degrees suck
I'm being unfair. He's a great teacher, and has interesting ideas. He just hasn't kept up with the literature, doesn't care to give me advice about publishing, and is rather antisocial with others in ostensibly his field.

He's certainly better than my previous advisor, who liked to dictate to (mostly foriegn) students that they will root through machine code manually, for example.

gondhir
Nov. 1st, 2005 08:30 pm (UTC)
Re: degrees suck
Well, I was referring more to the "professional advisors". People whose sole job is to advise people on what courses to take. People who the college forces you to register for classes through in order to make sure you don't make a mistake. People who sign you up for a class (within their department and required for every major in that department) and fail to notice that it has a required lab.

No, I'm not annoyed at the $100s I have to pay every semester in "advising fees". ;)
mapjunkie
Nov. 2nd, 2005 01:09 pm (UTC)
Re: degrees suck
Ah, yes, that sucks too.
gregbo
Oct. 31st, 2005 09:47 pm (UTC)
I have an MSCS from UCLA. I decided not to continue on for a PhD, and don't have any immediate plans to get one. I don't think my degrees have helped me very much career-wise, at least since about 1995 or so.
dorukai
Oct. 31st, 2005 10:56 pm (UTC)
B. Eng with honours. The piece of paper has been little use to me so far :)
banazir
Nov. 1st, 2005 04:22 am (UTC)
Piece of paper, sheepskin, vellum, what you will
Thanks for the input.

So, just as a data point: what do you do for a living, by your own definition, and what relation did you see your major as bearing towards that line of work?

--
Banazir
dorukai
Nov. 1st, 2005 05:10 am (UTC)
Re: Piece of paper, sheepskin, vellum, what you will
I'm currently a videogame designer.

Hmm. Well no individual job has seemed that odd given the previous one, but the progression was:
Elec Eng degree->programmer->tech support->web development->game art->game design.

Elec Eng has very little bearing on this line of work, except that the programming I did as part of the work gives me some insight into how programmers operate.
freesnowcone
Nov. 1st, 2005 02:08 am (UTC)
I think my latest degree will kill me. Or I'll kill someone else. Either way, it's going to kill someone.

And then it will be a scapegoat, in addition to a badge of honor.
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