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(c) 1985 Electronic Arts. Click on the image for the larger and higher-resolution version.

Man, do I feel old!

Context:

I was just talking with Victor Holt about massforge and possible applications thereof, and I mentioned The Bard's Tale as a series of computer role-playing games (CRPGs) from the late 80's that was probably before his time.

"Oh, I know The Bard's Tale. That got really good reviews."

It turns out, as I learned from this disambiguation page in Wikipedia, that he was talking about this 2004 remake by InExile Entertainment and not the Electronic Arts version from 1985.

Doesn't anyone remember Wizardry (no bloody II, III, IV, or V)? Or Ultima (1-7), from the Apple ][ days, before it was an MMORPG? Or Might and Magic before "Heroes of" preceded the title? Or Questron, Times of Lore (another Origin game), and the like? How about Sierra On-Line's King's Quest, Quest for Glory, and Leisure Suit Larry series? (I must admit, I played the first two games of the latter when I was still underage. ;-))

I grew up on those games, and it's amusing to go back and reminisce. They never seemed so low-res back in the day! (And we're not talking 1984, we're talking 1989-1991! It was only a long time ago to the younglings of today's college generation.)

Oh, and the other day in CIS 636/736 (Computer Graphics/Advanced Computer Graphics) I discovered that nobody had every heard of a Kaypro "portable computer".
You know, the 20-pound "luggables" with the 6" green or amber screens that were the height of the keyboard that folded into them?

You young whippersnappers! "Back in my day, we played CRPGs on Kaypros with 1x1 resolution... backwards, through the snow, on Sunday afternoon... and we liked it!"

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Banazir

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jadeleopard
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC)
If it makes you feel better, I'm only 24 and I played Bard's Tale, and I had a Comadore 64 'portable computer' :)

I feel old too sometimes. Like when no one on my f-list knew what a grue was.
jadeleopard
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:51 pm (UTC)
*Comments need edit buttons*

I found a listing at Wikipedia of my old Commodore64 portable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64
zengeneral
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:02 am (UTC)
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:20 am (UTC)
Trask, beat me to it
You must be very clever to do that to the monito!

It tastes like delicious poisonous chemicals,
Banazir
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
It is pitch black. You could be exterminated by a Dalek.
Here's some context for you.

In 1985, the year in which the current graduating class was born:

21 Jan - Reagan started his second term.
06 Jun - The body of Josef Mengele was exhumed and identified in Brazil.
04 Jul - Ruth Lawrence took her first in Maths at Oxford at 13. (She later got her Ph.D. at 18, became a postdoc at Harvard and got tenure at UMich Ann-Arbor at 26, and is now at Hebrew University.)
09 Dec - Pixar was founded. (Pixar!!)

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Banazir
cybercerberus
Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:34 am (UTC)
I'm 31, and I played several of the games listed up there on my Commodore 64.
prolog
Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)
*hurls an axe and runs away*
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:43 pm (UTC)
You hear a dull thump.
Nichols Hall

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

A lurking grue slithered into the room and devoured you!
*** YOU HAVE DIED ***


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Banazir
pursuer
Apr. 23rd, 2006 03:10 am (UTC)
Re: You hear a dull thump.
That IS what Nichols Hall feels like... LOL
twinbee
Apr. 23rd, 2006 07:02 am (UTC)
Re: You hear a dull thump.
Now you are in a maze of little twisty passages, all alike.
twinbee
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:43 pm (UTC)
i have that poster, AND a kaypro ripoff (honeywell)

so HA
banazir
Apr. 21st, 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
Kaypro and Honeywell
If and when you're ever willing to part with it, I have a computer museum with a spot for it! No need to eBay, just sell it to yours truly. :-D

I also need a ][gs and a //c. I miss the old games such as Alien Mind. It was Alien before DOOM, Quake, and Halo came in and made a 3-D mess of things.

That's also why I like that Flash game, The Last Dalek. OK, I also like that one because it's easy enough for someone whose hand-eye coordination is off its peak, as is mine.

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Banazir
twinbee
Apr. 21st, 2006 11:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Kaypro and Honeywell
you've got it Bill... it needs a 15 V power supply
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
Oh, well...
... how common are those nowadays?

I'm not sure how much I could use it... the ][gs still tempts me, though, because I've seen models for sale with manuals and lots of software, in very good condition.

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Banazir
miyeko
Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:43 am (UTC)
He gonna start a computer museum.

In his house.

I don't know if your family would appreciate living in the midst of it.

LOL. ^_^
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:54 am (UTC)
BULBASAUR!
Yeah, how about YER family and the sheer Pokemonicity? ;-)

Actually, I was going to start it in my lab, but then I realized there'd be no room, so I'd have to usurp my dad's crawl space. LOL. Oh, well.

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Banazir
miyeko
Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:59 am (UTC)
Re: BULBASAUR!
At least plushies don't require electricity. :P
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 04:09 am (UTC)
I had to delve into my GJ to retrieve the right icon again, but...


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Banazir
twinbee
Apr. 22nd, 2006 06:11 am (UTC)
Re: Oh, well...
you can use a 'universal power adapter' .... about $15 at walmart probably...

I can't seem to find it right now. I have a 'laptop' of the same era that is also Honeywell if you want it--free plus shipping. It uses the same stupid power supply, and has a some-MB HDD and 5 1/4" floppy.
twinbee
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:56 pm (UTC)
bards tale was also way hard

I liked WASTELAND a lot more bc it was easier
banazir
Apr. 21st, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
Ah, but did you have the Bard's Tale Solution Guide?
The original BT walkthrough was published in a way that saved you the mapping, but didn't obviate the need to detect traps and the like. I really liked that. Mapping was interesting once or twice, e.g., in Wizardry, but it got a chore after a few hours' worth. Nowadays, people don't map; they just pick up upgrades that automate it and power through. Everything's a power-up. These kids today, with their hair and their clothes! ;-) -- Banazir
cybercerberus
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:14 am (UTC)
Wasteland ruled. It had great concepts and images, even though most were basically "borrowed" from standard post-apoc flicks... I loved it.
mrs_dragon
Apr. 21st, 2006 11:02 pm (UTC)
I remember my roommate playing Leisure Suit Larry my freshman year in college (2000-2001). Don't know if that was the original, but it was rather low res on the graphics side. : )
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:28 am (UTC)
Low-res indeed
LSL1 was lower-res than King's Quest on the PCjr, IIRC!

I remember how revolutionary LSL2 was, being VGA and all. :-P

Do you remember when Quest for Glory 3 came out?
It had incredible artwork compared to QFG 1 & 2. I think the Coreys actually went back and remade QFG1 later.

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Banazir
pursuer
Apr. 23rd, 2006 03:15 am (UTC)
Re: Low-res indeed
I remember all the King's Quests (not necessarily all the plot-lines)... and even though I am only 23 now, I was able to play the "adult" versions of LSL's... Passionate Persuit of Perscilla, was it? That was a riot.
I used to think the graphics on the KQ's were fantastic... lol. Look at how far we've come. Wish I could figure out the one KQ I loved so well... looked like a cartoon, well-done (at the time). Had something where you grabbed an iceberg lettuce...?
Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow was good too.
No need to feel old, just geeky. LOL ;)
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banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:29 am (UTC)
Emulation! Hah!
Simulators, heh!

A Jedi craves not these things!

:-D

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Banazir
amishlurker
Apr. 21st, 2006 11:32 pm (UTC)
I played Bard's Tale I & II completely on my own, needed help from a guide at one spot in III. Ultima -- played several of them, as well as Wizardry.

Old? I remember playing Zork in text-only version on my Atari-64.
Of course, years before that friends always came to visit in the evenings because I was the first to have a Pong game, and later the Atari 2600.
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:40 pm (UTC)
Elders
Banamum tole me lawaz to wespeck my elders!

*bows*

Actually, I had an Atari 800 as my first computer. It had 64K of RAM and was a member of the 8-bit (64 words) family. Is that what you meant (600 & 800)?

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Banazir
nobuddy69
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:30 am (UTC)
Ultima IV is and shall be the best game ever.

Speaking of Ultima, has anyone tried the new Ultima V - Lazarus? Would it be worth trying?
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC)
Ultima V: Lazarus
A 3-D fan remake of Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny? Now that looks cool. It may take a long time to finish, though.

On a tangential note, there is a game called Akalabeth: World of Doom that Richard Gariott (Lord British) wrote in 1979. Apparently it's considered the unofficial first game (or zeroth game) of the Ultima genre.

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Banazir
wudu_wasa
Apr. 22nd, 2006 02:19 am (UTC)
Heroes of Might and Magic and the original King's Quest I have. Peasant's Quest I also know of.
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
PEASANT'S QUEST!!
I still haven't beaten that, LOL.

Say, did you ever get a chance to send me that "video" icon?

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Banazir
wudu_wasa
Apr. 24th, 2006 02:42 pm (UTC)
Re: PEASANT'S QUEST!!
Oh, sorry about that, the USB I had it on was lost, I'll try to track it down or make another one as soon as I can. Again, a thousand apologies.
wudu_wasa
Apr. 24th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC)
Which haven't you beat? Might and Magic or King's Quest? BTW you can find a online version of Peasant's Quest here: http://www.homestarrunner.com/disk4of12.html
bojojoti
Apr. 22nd, 2006 05:31 am (UTC)
We were the first ones on our block with a Commodore Vic-20. I played a mean Space Invaders.
bojojoti
Apr. 22nd, 2006 05:32 am (UTC)
P.S. Black and White. We had no color on our computers back then.
banazir
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:44 pm (UTC)
Black and White
Haha, say "Black and White" to one of the abovementioned kids and see what they think it means...

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Banazir
bojojoti
Apr. 23rd, 2006 02:32 am (UTC)
Re: Black and White
Not the game! The color (or lack thereof) of the screen!
banazir
Apr. 23rd, 2006 02:35 am (UTC)
*You* know, and *I* know
... but do they know? ;-)

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Banazir
baroque_n_roll
Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:13 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, I remember the Ultima games! My brother got a 486 from the state of New York (he's autistic, so I guess they figured it would help him in school?), and one of the games it came with was Ultima VII. We ended up buying the Ultima Collection a few years later, but I still like VII the best. Good times, man.
prolog
Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:15 pm (UTC)
I had a Xerox 8086 as my main computer until 1997, so I'm well-familiar! I remember playing Rogue, Wizardry (the "IBM PC Jr" version), and a number of other games borrowed from friends. I had a bunch of my own, too. Kings Quest and Kings Quest IV (though I lost the manual for the latter in the early 90s, and could never play it again afterwards), the Black Cauldron (my favourite), and maybe one or two other Sierra titles. I also had a 3-D pacman clone called 3-Demon that I loved, as well as a game called Bushido, a really cheesy ninja game.

I have to admit, I was more of a Nintendo kid.
hellboy
Apr. 23rd, 2006 12:47 am (UTC)
When I was four, I used to play with my mum's word processor on this hulking behemoth of a laptop and think it was bliss. Until I got to elementary school, and the nerd baffled me with tales of Zork and the like, I didn't get to play games ;_;

I did however, beat Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy without any help! I strutted around like I was the queen until I found out that the game was based on a book, and that anyone who read it would know how to beat it >_>
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