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Seventeenth remembrance: Liu Si

On this day in history:
The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, also known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, June 4th Incident, or the Political Turmoil between Spring and Summer of 1989 by the Chinese government, were a series of demonstrations led by students, intellectuals and labour activists in the People's Republic of China between April 15, 1989 and June 4, 1989, leaving (according to Chinese authorities) between 400 and 800 civilians dead, and between 7,000 and 10,000 injured. An initial report from local hospitals put the number at around 2,000 dead.

Lest we forget...

Edit, 11:10 China Standard Time Tue 13 Jun 2006 - Here's a significant back-dating: I'm posting this from Beijing. Thanks to taiji_jian for helping me set up an SSH/HTTPD proxy through his Ubuntu box back in Illinois.

Also, belated happy birthday, finabair, despite the somber occasion.

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Banazir

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dsthenes
Jun. 13th, 2006 03:14 am (UTC)
You subversive!

D.
banazir
Jun. 13th, 2006 03:17 am (UTC)
Indeed
Hey, did I see you guys win this morning??

Woo!

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Banazir
dsthenes
Jun. 13th, 2006 04:21 am (UTC)
Re: Indeed
Glorious come-from-behind victory! :D

I think we were slightly fortunate as the Japanese did not take some really good opportunities, but, well, football is a cruel game like that and I'm sure we'll get reverse karma sometime soon ...

D.
niennanir
Jun. 13th, 2006 04:19 am (UTC)
What greater way to honor the fallen than to circumvent the suppression of the free exchange of ideas.

banazir
Jun. 13th, 2006 05:38 am (UTC)
That's what I always say :)
The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
    -John Gilmore

Isn't it cool? I just downloaded the Tank Man photo from Wikipedia, which is completely blocked by the Great Firewall of China.1 Then I uploaded it back to my own web server in Kansas, which is not blocked, and now I am posting it again.



Now, here's what may happen:

1. If someone views this image from within China by searching for prohibited terms such as "Tiananmen Square Massacre", their IP paired with Ringil's will get blocked - first for 5 minutes, then for 20, then for 5 hours, etc. Eventually the police will show up, asking questions.

2. If enough people within China view this image, Ringil will get blocked. Surprisingly, LiveJournal isn't blocked, but Google Blog Search is blocked in voluntary compliance with regulations prohibiting blog search from behind the GFWOC. (MSN and Yahoo restrict themselves even more, though this is little publicized because Google has generally been a bastion of free communications worldwide.)

1 The blockage is thanks to Jimmy Wales' flat refusal to comply with Chinese filtering requests, for better or for worse. (Personally, I'd rather make a compromise now and push for opening China up to more and more of Wikipedia. Even as a matter of principle, what have we got to lose? It's not as if the "real" Wikipedia is being limited in any way, and people who tunneled before to get it can keep tunnelling.)

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Banazir
niennanir
Jun. 13th, 2006 05:58 am (UTC)
Re: That's what I always say :)
And is it not the great truth of the cyber universe that they might block Ringil... or you... or Live Journal... or even me. But at some point they must cease blocking for they cannot block the whole without destroying that which they seek to control.

Let's see how tough their tanks are against the might of a billion users.


banazir
Jun. 13th, 2006 06:03 am (UTC)
Sheer strength in numbers won't do it
What's really needed is an ideological sea change, and something that we Westerners forget too often is that true paradigm shift comes gradually, especially to cultures based on the "harmony of conformity". As Orson Scott Card wrote, to make someone stop doing something, you have to make him stop wanting to do it.

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Banazir
niennanir
Jun. 13th, 2006 06:33 am (UTC)
Re: Sheer strength in numbers won't do it
All at once? No.

That's true enough. A single drop of rain changes nothing on its own. But given enough time the sea can wear down a mountain. (Of course I don't like to think about the massive distruction the sea is actually capable of this time of year, I live in FL) Nothing holds back the sea forever.

Ah... if only we were patient.


banazir
Jun. 13th, 2006 06:59 am (UTC)
Haba na haba hajasa kibaba
"Little by little, the kibaba gourd is filled."
(I think it's Swahili, but I could be wrong. I read it in Quest for Glory III: Wages of War.)

Here's to the ocean that comes from the rain. And to the slow power of patience and generations.

Where in FL do you live, BTW?
I used to live in Lakeland (1982-1985) and spent a couple of months in Plant City.

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Banazir
niennanir
Jun. 13th, 2006 01:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Haba na haba hajasa kibaba
It is Swahili.

A little coastal community south of Lakeland called Venice. I've lived in the Tampa Bay area for over 20 years now, Mostly in or around Sarasota.
bojojoti
Jun. 13th, 2006 06:22 am (UTC)
I remember that lone person in front of the tanks as if it were yesterday.

Thank you for the link to The Great Firewall of China. I found it quite informative.
banazir
Jun. 13th, 2006 06:41 am (UTC)
So do I
1989-06-03 was the day of my high school graduation. It was a good day - until I came home and turned on the television.

You're welcome for the link. Please pass it along, and share alike if you have similar info.

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Banazir
poovanna
Jun. 13th, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC)
Great post
I'm posting this from Beijing. Thanks to [info]taiji_jian for helping me set up an SSH/HTTPD proxy through his Ubuntu box back in Illinois.
Didn't know you were in China prof!
If only there were more of your kind in Yahoo! :-D
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