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Poll #1294601 Academic Degree Poll

Do you have the terminal degree in your field?

Yes
4(13.8%)
No
23(79.3%)
Uncertain (e.g., MLA in university system where DLA is available in certain universities only) - please comment to elaborate
2(6.9%)

What is your highest level of education to date?

None
0(0.0%)
Current high school student
0(0.0%)
High school diploma
4(13.8%)
Associate / 2-year / community college / junior college / vocational-technical degree
2(6.9%)
Bachelor's / 4-year degree
14(48.3%)
Master's degree
7(24.1%)
Doctorate
2(6.9%)

Which of the following positions have you held?

Undergraduate research programmer
2(14.3%)
Grader
2(14.3%)
Graduate teaching assistant
2(14.3%)
Graduate reseach asssistant
0(0.0%)
Postdoctoral research fellow / member of the technical staff
0(0.0%)
Research scientist / visiting assistant professor
0(0.0%)
Assistant professor
0(0.0%)
Associate or full professor
0(0.0%)

What is your actual highest degree called?

Bachelor of Arts (B.A.)
5(17.9%)
Bachelor of Science (B.S., B.Sc.)
5(17.9%)
Master of Arts (M.A.)
4(14.3%)
Master of Fine Arts (MFA)
0(0.0%)
Master of Philosophy (M. Phil.)
0(0.0%)
Master of Science (M.S.)
4(14.3%)
Master of Landscape Architecture (MLE)
0(0.0%)
Master of Software Engineering (MSE)
0(0.0%)
Master of Veterinary Medicine (MVM) or equivalent
0(0.0%)
Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D. or D. Phil.)
2(7.1%)
Doctor of Science (D.Sc.)
0(0.0%)
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine (MVM)
0(0.0%)
Juris Doctorate (J.D.)
0(0.0%)
Medical Doctor (M.D.) or Doctor of Osteopathy (D.O.)
0(0.0%)
Other degree not listed - please specify below and comment
8(28.6%)

What is the EXACT name of your highest degree?

Any NONTERMINAL degrees not listed above? Please specify:

How many years have you spent, to date, in higher (post-secondary) education? Please enter 11 for "greater than 10".

Mean: 6.33 Median: 6 Std. Dev 2.57
0(0.0%)
0
0(0.0%)
1
0(0.0%)
2
1(3.7%)
3
2(7.4%)
4
5(18.5%)
5
4(14.8%)
6
4(14.8%)
7
2(7.4%)
8
3(11.1%)
9
2(7.4%)
10
1(3.7%)
11
3(11.1%)


Comments are welcome.

ETA, 07:15 CST Mon 10 Nov 2008 - In retrospect, I should have had that scale at 15; I was thinking "years in grad school". Also, I thought a scale would be a nifty Javascript or PHP slider bar. Bha.

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Banazir

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chaosinaskirt
Nov. 10th, 2008 01:14 pm (UTC)
I have a three-way tie for highest attained degree (or, rather, will in a few months) -- the bracketed is not part of the actual degree name, just an indication of major; what comes before is the actual degree name:
=> Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering (BSME)
=> Bachelor of Science (BS) [in mathematics]
=> Bachelor of Science in Engineering (BSE) [in electrical and computer engineering]


When I am done here in 2011, it will be 2x Master of Science, as the degrees are not MSEE/MSME but MS [in xxx]
banazir
Nov. 10th, 2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
Order of disciplines
Wow, that's interesting. Did you do your BSME, then math, and then go back to engineering? And are your masters' degrees concurrent?

Also, I'm curious - what university are you at?

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Banazir
chaosinaskirt
Nov. 10th, 2008 01:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Order of disciplines
I don't want to not answer your questions, but my answers make it far too easy to google me (not that the above combination makes it hard, but naming schools is the death of that). banazir@livejournal.com still work?
banazir
Nov. 10th, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Order of disciplines
Yep! Got your e-mail. Thanks!

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Banazir
eightdaysofrain
Nov. 10th, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
I gotta ask:

What is a terminal degree? I've never heard of that before.
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banazir
Nov. 10th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
TERMINAL degrees
LOL! Actually, it does sound as if we take the candidate out and shoot him afterwards.

Chele, a terminal degree is one that is generally accepted as the highest one in a given field of study. e.g., if doctorates are granted in an engineering discipline such as civil engineering, then the Ph.D. or D.Sc. would both be terminal degrees. An M.D. or D.O. is a terminal degree in medicine; a J.D. is in law; an MLA is generally considered to be one in Landscape Architecture just as an MFA is in Fine Arts, because DLAs and DFAs are not offered by most universities.

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Banazir
banazir
Nov. 10th, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
Re: I gotta ask:
See my reply to nikolasco below.

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Banazir
eightdaysofrain
Nov. 11th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
Re: I gotta ask:
Noted, and thank you for such a detailed response!
The examples were very helpful too.

(Although I have to say Nikolasco has a point too - after all that study in a chosen area, you'd probably feel dead in a way).

bojojoti
Nov. 10th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
Circumstances precluded a college education for myself after high school graduation. I had siblings to raise. Once they were graduated from high school, I married and worked to put my husband through college. We had a family. Our son graduated this spring with a major in business and a minor in mathematics. Our daughter is in her junior year of receiving her bachelor's degree in nursing. Our son will be pursuing his master's next year. Our daughter is undecided which direction to take educationally after graduation, but she is entertaining a master's degree in nursing or application to medical school.

As for me, after a 34 lapse, I'm currently enrolled at a local university. With my work schedule and health issues, I can only handle one class a semester, but it's a start. I never stopped learning--I've always had an inquisitive mind--so the academic atmosphere is a delight to me. I plan to attend indefintely.
scionofgrace
Nov. 11th, 2008 12:25 am (UTC)
Doctor of Musical Arts (D.M.A.) is, of course, the highest degree for the area I've already got a degree in. For a librarian, it would be a Ph.D.

Man, this is confusing.
banazir
Nov. 11th, 2008 03:22 am (UTC)
Hi, Dimond!
Told ya, Andrea! I actually thought of you when I made this post, but I wasn't sure what your music degree would be. Nonetheless, there is a space I made just for you to write in things like DMA! (Funny, in CS "DMA" stands for Direct Memory Access... not nearly as interesting.)

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Banazir
smegalicious
Nov. 11th, 2008 03:31 am (UTC)
Might I ask what your actual field is? Are you a music librarian?
scionofgrace
Nov. 11th, 2008 04:11 am (UTC)
I have a bachelor's in Music Education and am currently going for a Masters of Library Science.

But being a music librarian would be pretty awesome.
smegalicious
Nov. 11th, 2008 04:15 am (UTC)
Heh. Our school actually has a Music Librarian - he has an office up on the fifth floor of the Library.

It's kind of particularly cool because our department is the only one that has its own full-time librarian. He teaches music bibliography classes and stuff.

I asked him one time what he has his degree in and he basically rolled his eyes at me. He's got, like, a masters in Organ and in pedagogy and a PhD in Library Science, on top of who the hell knows what else. But it's an awesome field!


Two more questions - what's your primary instrument (mine's voice - I'm a lyric tenor), and what are your long-term degree/career plans? If I might ask, that is!
scionofgrace
Nov. 13th, 2008 12:24 am (UTC)
Heh. Our school actually has a Music Librarian - he has an office up on the fifth floor of the Library.

Oh, that just sounds cool.

I'm a vocal major, same as you. Lyric soprano, actually. My long-term plans are in limbo at the moment, as I had to take a pay cut at work that effectively nixes my grad school ambitions unless I can scare up some grant money.

What are your plans?
smegalicious
Nov. 13th, 2008 04:28 am (UTC)
I don't actually know... I think performance is really my long-term goal, all in all. Education doesn't shout out to me, and technology is interesting but not THAT interesting.

At the moment, I'm just thinking about working on my Bachelor's and seeing how I like the higher-intensity music and stuff that comes along with it. So far I'm having a great time - stress and all of that aside!

So, yeah. Long-term plans... not sure. Grad school, maybe? And performing professionally at some point... I hope.
smegalicious
Nov. 11th, 2008 03:29 am (UTC)
Since I'm in a unique sort of field - Vocal Performance - I get my own degrees!

I've got an Associate of Arts now, and I'm pursuing a BM (Bachelor of Music) degree. I know that my old voice teacher had a BM in Vocal Performance and a Master's in... vocal pedagogy, I think? My Music Theory teacher definitely had a Doctorate of Music in Chamber Accompaniment, though.

I think the highest degree level for me would be a DM (?) but the actual benefit of pursuing it is, as far as I know, relatively negligible unless I'm going to actually be a teacher - from what I have been told (and I may be wrong) I will be well-suited to get a Master of Music in Vocal Performance after obtaining my Bachelor's.


Damn. Now I need to go and ask my voice teacher tomorrow about the degrees in the performance field.
smegalicious
Nov. 11th, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
By the way, I may have misunderstood the questions - I answered with what actually IS the highest degree available in this field (as far as I know), not the degree I actually have.

I shouldn't surf LJ tired and caffeinated, seriously.

Besides which. How can I pass up an opportunity to use the abbreviation "BM"?
myng_rabbyt
Nov. 12th, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
At the end of this semester, I will have obtained a Master's of Arts in English/Creative Writing. It is not a terminal degree. My first Master's degree is my library science degree; it can be considered a terminal degree, since working in most academic libraries only requires a Master's degree. A Ph.D. is usually only required if you desire to teach library science.

In some libraries, an additional Master's degree is required, especially if the library is a discipline-specific library. Many law libraries require a law degree on top of the MLIS.

I'm obtaining a second Master's degree for a few, mostly practical/mercenary reasons:

1. I started it in 2001, and I wanted to finish it
2. I'm tenure-track, and a second degree helps
3. In order to be promoted to the rank of associate professor, a second Master's degree is usually required (= more money)
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