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Grad Councils and Lightsabre Ditties

Today we had the first KSU Grad Council meeting of the semester.
These are only like Jedi Councils in that there is a bit of old-fashioned wielding of Robert's Rules and a little more bureaucracy (though there are also some mavericks, yours truly being no exception ;-)). 1

Oh, and also the Dean of the Graduate School looks like Ki-Adi Mundi.
No, rilly!

The main thing you might be interested in (especially f00dave and shanmonster) is that the honor code that was adopted in 1998 for undergraduates is going to go into effect for graduate students as well. Enfin! Atalast!
Not a moment too soon, either - we've had more reported violations in the last semester in the Graduate College than in all semesters since the honor code went into effect. There was also this incident last fall. Hurgh!

Oh, by the way: Any prospective plagiarists at my university who are reading this... I'd like you to know that TAs talk. Capisci?




Speaking of Jedi: My site Lightsaber Resources is suffering from considerable link rot (having been kept up-to-date for only about half a year after its debut on 14 May 1999) and is in need of an overhaul. Here are the 10 songs that I salvaged from the depths, though:



I'd like to take a straw poll - which of the following titles do you prefer for the song parody section?


  • Jocasta Nu's Boogiechron

  • Dance Dance Rebellion

  • Tatooine Idol



Other suggestions are welcome.

1 Some day, I will get to say "see through you, we can" in a Ph.D. oral exam. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained! Hrm, somebuddy lpease stop me from channelling Adan anymory...

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Banazîr

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f00dave
Feb. 4th, 2004 12:55 pm (UTC)
Enfin is right! Now if only they'd implement something similar here at UNB, where the First Offense is gotten away with with a slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again".

One of the four 'deliberate' cases we looked at last term (out of eight, where four more were considered 'genuine misunderstandings' by the instructor) actually *purchased a paper off the internet*. Of course there's a sob story associated with each of the incidents, which usually leads to the above non-punishment. ... But BUYING A PAPER OFF THE INTERNET? I mean, how much worse can it possible get before they actually fail the student on the course instead of "just resubmit the paper, you've got three weeks from today"??!?
banazir
Feb. 5th, 2004 06:33 am (UTC)
Enfin
Enfin is right! Now if only they'd implement something similar here at UNB, where the First Offense is gotten away with with a slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again".
Bha, no wonder you're frequently on about it.
Ick.

One of the four 'deliberate' cases we looked at last term (out of eight, where four more were considered 'genuine misunderstandings' by the instructor) actually *purchased a paper off the internet*.
Yeah, well, that's a genuine misunderstanding too - of ethics, ataleast. :-P

Of course there's a sob story associated with each of the incidents, which usually leads to the above non-punishment.
Oh, cry me a river.
Let's hear it!
And while you're on it, turn the lights off!

... But BUYING A PAPER OFF THE INTERNET? I mean, how much worse can it possible get before they actually fail the student on the course instead of "just resubmit the paper, you've got three weeks from today"??!?
Three weeks? After cheating?
Gosh, I'm pretty lenient on deadlines, but that's beyond the pale.
Bha.

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Banazir
f00dave
Feb. 5th, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Enfin
Oh, cry me a river.
Let's hear it!
And while you're on it, turn the lights off!


I don't know the story, I was told about it in very vague generalities by the instructor (I suppose even that was a bit much). They're freaked out over privacy stuff up here, man....

Three weeks? After cheating?
Gosh, I'm pretty lenient on deadlines, but that's beyond the pale.


It's right in the Undergraduate Calendar, section 9.

In the case of plagiarism resulting from genuine misunderstanding, the instructor may permit the student to submit a genuine piece of work to be graded in place of the one plagiarized. If the student does not appeal, the time allowed for submission of work is three weeks from the date of the Registrar's letter of notification.


It only gets more lenient after that. Pisses me off. *shrug*
banazir
Feb. 5th, 2004 08:35 pm (UTC)
Cheaters (almost) never prosper
I don't know the story, I was told about it in very vague generalities by the instructor (I suppose even that was a bit much). They're freaked out over privacy stuff up here, man....
They are here, too, but I'm on the Grad Council and the department grad program committee. I have ways of finding things oat, hey?

It's right in the Undergraduate Calendar, section 9...
It only gets more lenient after that. Pisses me off. *shrug*

What for? So they can get over the trauma of being caught cheating?

Oh, don't get me started on the four incidents we caught about 2-3 years back - all of them were dismissed from computer science and were accepted en masse into math. Wot kinda message does that send, I ask you?

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Banazir
f00dave
Feb. 5th, 2004 09:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Cheaters (almost) never prosper
Into *MATH*?!?! That's the most horrible abomination I've *EVER HEARD*!!!

Godd GOD, man, I thought it was bad up here (where they're considering repealing the requirement that CS grad students take at least one Theory course since they sure as hell wouldn't, otherwise)...

Polluting the math department like that, though? DAMN!
banazir
Feb. 5th, 2004 11:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Cheaters (almost) never prosper
Into *MATH*?!?!
That's the most horrible abomination I've *EVER HEARD*!!!

It's their own trasking fault.
Sometimes mathemagicians have a different idea of what constitutes ability and talent. At K-State, as zaimoni (who came out of that department) can tell you, the Ph.D. students are a cut above. The Master's students are a mixed bag. Some are clearly workhorses brought in as hired guns for calculus and lower-division undergrad courses.

I hate that. When teunc achieves global hegemony, the first thing I'm going to do is subsidize good math TAs. They'll even speak English when necessary.

Godd GOD, man, I thought it was bad up here (where they're considering repealing the requirement that CS grad students take at least one Theory course since they sure as hell wouldn't, otherwise)...
Oh, God, don't get me started.
As a member of the KSU-CIS grad program committee, I had to draft the new version of the prelim rules that changed our (admittedly too-rigid) Ph.D. comprehensive exam requirements to "3 of 7 topics, one of which must be theory". 1 I didn't even believe in getting rid of the theory req, and yet, I was railroaded into being an advocate of "3 of 7" ad libram. At the time, I had three Ph.D. students (one of whom had already passed under the "hard" rules; one of whom left with an M.S. and is now at U. Texas Arlington; and the third of whom switched to the Ph.D. program in Educational Technology here). Bha. Bha, bha, bha. *shakes head at trasky memory*

Polluting the math department like that, though? DAMN!
Oh, so you're one of those, eh? ;-)

1 Good Lord! It's still the old version! Thanks for helping me to notice. Our webmaster needs a light flayingstern talking to.

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Banazir
f00dave
Feb. 7th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Cheaters (almost) never prosper
They don't even make the students do comprehensives anymore at UNB. I win. ;-)

And yes, I'm one of "those" (if by that you mean someone who both respects mathematics as a seperate area, and yet acknowledges that it has no meaning outside its applications in other areas). Math is the language of science, true, but it's also mostly 'syntax'; the semantics comes from the top mathematicians ... and from applied areas.

But that's just my stuffy, sick head speaking.... =]
banazir
Feb. 7th, 2004 06:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Cheaters (almost) never prosper
They don't even make the students do comprehensives anymore at UNB. I win. ;-)
As gondhir and hempknight would say, I hate you! >:-P

And yes, I'm one of "those" (if by that you mean someone who both respects mathematics as a seperate area, and yet acknowledges that it has no meaning outside its applications in other areas).
Fine to alla that.

Math is the language of science, true, but it's also mostly 'syntax'; the semantics comes from the top mathematicians ... and from applied areas.
There ya go.

But that's just my stuffy, sick head speaking.... =]
Get well soonOh, wlel! Chacun a son teunce.

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Banazir
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banazir
Feb. 4th, 2004 04:08 pm (UTC)
Busy busy Barberini busy busy bee
Capisci, Bana. Capisci.
Thank you - so edited.

Grinning,
M. --- where's my interview? :)

Onnits way - I've got 13 to do in addition to deire's!



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Banazir
darana
Feb. 5th, 2004 01:05 am (UTC)
No more stickectomy's here please
1 Some day, I will get to say "see through you, we can" in a Ph.D. oral exam. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained! Hrm, somebuddy lpease stop me from channelling Adan anymory...


Yes we must stop you from channeling adan. One Master needing to have a stick removed is enough. We'd miss your sense of humor too much. ;)
banazir
Feb. 5th, 2004 06:12 am (UTC)
Re: No more stickectomies here please
Yes we must stop you from channeling adan.
One Master needing to have a stick removed is enough.

One? Don't look now, but...
(To say more would perhaps put me on the outs with the Council. ;-))

We'd miss your sense of humor too much. ;)
Aww, thanks! :-D

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Banazir
masteralida
Feb. 8th, 2004 05:15 pm (UTC)
Re: No more stickectomies here please
And what is wrong with having a stick, I ask of you?

(just getting around to reading things....)
banazir
Feb. 8th, 2004 06:29 pm (UTC)
Re: No more stickectomies here please
And what is wrong with having a stick, I ask of you?
LOL! Is that IC as Adan or an objective POV, I ask you?

(just getting around to reading things....)
Oh, same here...
Frequently so...

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Banazir
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