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The Issue

An elite group of highly-qualified, well-respected scientists, lawyers, and doctors are campaigning to outlaw the study of the Arts and Humanities in the Universities of Wibbletrask.


The Debate

"Why should Arts students get to lounge around reading books and watching daytime TV for hours on end, when some of our hard-working youngsters are dedicating themselves to the study of worthwhile and valuable subjects; studies which will benefit the nation as a whole?" asks Falala Jones, a student engineer. "We should be grooming our young people to help, not sponge off the system. The Arts should be considered a hobby, not a career."


"You can't mean that," gasps Prof. Catherine Gratwick, renowned worldwide for her paintings of trains. "Learning should be done out of love, not duty. The Study of the Arts has been a noble field for many centuries, and learning it is not as easy as you think. I'd rather die than live in a world where creativity is stifled. We should be encouraging young artists, writers, musicians - if only to strengthen Wibbletrask's cultural reputation."


This is the position your government is preparing to adopt.

"What's the point in allowing most young people to continue in further education anyway?" enquires Randy Trax, a factory manager. "Surely most students would be better employed in manual and factory work? You should handpick a select few to study medicine, the law, science, and business of course, and utilise the majority of youth to increase the country's productivity in industry. Academic freedom just gets in the way of a functioning society, I've always said."


Scary thing is, like most Jennifer Government issues with an edge, this one doesn't seem so farfetched.
The first selection in certain sectors, anyhow.

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Banazir

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wiliqueen
Jul. 9th, 2004 06:26 am (UTC)
Scary thing is, like most Jennifer Government issues with an edge, this one doesn't seem so farfetched. The first selection in certain sectors, anyhow.

Alas, you're not wrong. You have no idea how cranky I get when I have to resort to pointing out the studies indicating a correlation between K-12 arts programs and higher standardized test scores in "real" subjects. :-PPPPPP
banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 05:08 pm (UTC)
The things that make life worth living
Alas, you're not wrong. You have no idea how cranky I get when I have to resort to pointing out the studies indicating a correlation between K-12 arts programs and higher standardized test scores in "real" subjects.
Indeed.
Works both ways for math and music, too.
And I have a slight idea about the crankiness, being somewhat familiar with it myself.

We don't read and write poetry because it's cute. We read and write poetry because we are members of the human race. And the human race is filled with passion. And medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for.
-Dead Poets' Society

(time for me to re-watch, methinks)

:-PPPPPP
ThrpthrpthbhtplthPTHPTHPTHBPTHBTHHBBBBTH!

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Banazir
wiliqueen
Jul. 9th, 2004 06:56 pm (UTC)
Re: The things that make life worth living
Works both ways for math and music, too.

Yup. A fact of which the typical layman is equally ignorant. *sigh*

Human cognition? Does not sort itself into neat columns. Get over it.

As for DPS...wow, I haven't seen that in ages. Time for a rewatch for me too.

"I sound my barbaric YAWP over the rooftops of the world!"
banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 07:52 pm (UTC)
Laypeople
Works both ways for math and music, too.
Yup. A fact of which the typical layman is equally ignorant. *sigh*
I don't know about you, my musically-brilliant friend, but I take that as a sign that I haven't done my math education duty enough. :o)
Tally ho!

Human cognition?
Does not sort itself into neat columns.
Get over it.

Y'know, that would make a nice icon, is what.
(Hey, who's in the "sharing wonder" icon above?)

As for DPS...wow, I haven't seen that in ages.
Time for a rewatch for me too.

You've seen The Red Violin, right?
What did you think of it?

"I sound my barbaric YAWP over the rooftops of the world!"
YAWP!!!

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Banazir
wiliqueen
Jul. 9th, 2004 08:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Laypeople
but I take that as a sign that I haven't done my math education duty enough. :o)

Enough to raise awareness in ALL the unenlightened hordes? We don't want you stretched so thin you make the Nazgul look healthy...

Y'know, that would make a nice icon, is what.

:: mulls possibilities ::

(Hey, who's in the "sharing wonder" icon above?)

Griet (Scarlett Johansson) and Vermeer (Colin Firth) looking in the camera obscura in Girl With a Pearl Earring. (Now there's an exploration of artistic cognition. And of the assumptions made by people who Just Don't Get It -- in these case, that all intimacy must be sexual/romantic.) Or rather, she's looking in the camera; he's watching her look in the camera.

You've seen The Red Violin, right?

*shakes head* Nope, but it's on the list. Will have to move it up now that I've been asked my opinion. :-)
banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 08:17 pm (UTC)
Art and music: recent good films
but I take that as a sign that I haven't done my math education duty enough. :o)
Enough to raise awareness in ALL the unenlightened hordes?
Well, I'd trot out the
Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto
but as we TEUNCs say, there are some rilly weird hmunsas out there. ;-)

We don't want you stretched so thin you make the Nazgul look healthy...
I dunno, jereeza the Belly-dancing Nazgul looks fairly healthy to moi...

Y'know, that would make a nice icon, is what.
:: mulls possibilities ::
Yayay!
And (mild Stargate SG-1 season premiere spoiler):
"mull" looks much too much like "mullet" this evening ;-)

(Hey, who's in the "sharing wonder" icon above?)
Griet (Scarlett Johansson) and Vermeer (Colin Firth) looking in the camera obscura in Girl With a Pearl Earring.
Ahh, of course! Danke.
Haven't seen it; will add it to my list. :o)

(Now there's an exploration of artistic cognition. And of the assumptions made by people who Just Don't Get It -- in these case, that all intimacy must be sexual/romantic.) Or rather, she's looking in the camera; he's watching her look in the camera.
:nod:
Like flavors of love, of course... how limiting to suppose otherwise.

You've seen The Red Violin, right?
*shakes head* Nope, but it's on the list.
Will have to move it up now that I've been asked my opinion. :-)

Very rich cultural backdrop, worth it for that alone IMO.
A bit of "The Last Emperor meets Shakespeare in Love" or something like that. Ambiguous ending (won't spoil it for you), predictable but poignant mystery (ditto), but IMO an all-around strong film.
Recommended it to deire last fall.

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Banazir
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banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 07:47 pm (UTC)
NationStates
yay! nation states are fun!!!
Sure are!
Over a year, here.

Here's our region:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/74649/page=display_region/region=balrog_cuttings

Let me know if you are interested in moving - I'll need to clear it with teunc.

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Banazir
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banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 07:55 pm (UTC)
Re: NationStates
NP. Making your own is always funner.
Who's the UN delegate? :-)

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Banazir
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banazir
Jul. 9th, 2004 09:39 pm (UTC)
Cool
Well, that's fine, too.
We haven't played with the UN stuff much in months - mostly we just role-play geopolitics in Middle-earth. :-)

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Banazir
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