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The Diaspora Meme

Here's a little meme I would love to see propagated:
diaspora (n.) - the dispersion or spreading of something that was originally localized (as a people or language or culture)

Name, and tell me a little about, your favorite diasporas from history and fiction.
A historical diaspora might be a well-documented one such as the Jewish diaspora or hypothesized one such as the Austronesian dispersal. A fictional diaspora can be any non-factual scattering of races, planetary inhabitants, etc. that you like.

My favorite historical diaspora would probably be that of Chinese-Americans, though I'm fascinated as well by the history of Perenakans (Straits Chinese) such as yodge, and of Chinese abroad.

My pet fictional diasporas are a toss-up between the hegira of Dan Simmons's Hyperion/Endymion universe and the "depleted Earth" migration of Firefly that led to the colonization of the Alliance worlds. A close runner-up is the Gaea/Keeper-induced diaspora of Orson Scott Card's Homecoming series (which is itself a retelling of the Book of Mormon).

In other news: Here's Dubya, Trasky Dubya, courtesy of flemco of Two Lumps fame.

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Banazir

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yahvah
Sep. 24th, 2004 01:38 pm (UTC)
What I think is cool about the Jewish diaspora is that Moses wrote about it. Some would be happy to call it self-fulfilling, but I'd suggest that would be a hasty generalization. Moses mentioned the diaspora more than once, too.
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 06:06 pm (UTC)
Very interesting
Prophecies of diaspora have got to be a little unsettling from the get-go, but when the homeland isn't even established yet? Oy.

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Banazir
burkhardt
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:32 pm (UTC)
Re: Very interesting
When I was still attending Sunday School they told me a lack of turmoil in the Jewish homeland was one of the signs of the Apocalypse. It wasn't an attempt at brevity either.
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:40 pm (UTC)
Hrm, memories coming back
Yes, I remember that, too.
Well, make of it what you will. The same folks watched the prices of barley and the advent of barcoding technology for similar reasons.

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Banazir
burkhardt
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Hrm, memories coming back
On that topic I'm tired of carrying credit cards and ID cards. How long till I can beast-mark myself up and get rid of that wallet weight.
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:59 pm (UTC)
Beast-marking
I like that term, despite the Dark Angel evocation ever since the days when Jessica Alba sported a barcode on the back of her neck.

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Banazir
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banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 06:26 pm (UTC)
Six degrees of diaspora
I regret having to say this, but Cro diaspora is mostly a step away from being Nazi.
Eeps, but that too is historically interesting.
How do you mean?

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Banazir
nobuddy69
Sep. 24th, 2004 03:03 pm (UTC)
Personal favourite naturally the Karelian diaspora of 1940s, when we brought a sense of humor and relaxed attitude to the rest of the Finland ;-)

Fictional - Feanor and the Flight of Noldor?
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 09:42 pm (UTC)
There is nothing for you here, only home
Personal favourite naturally the Karelian diaspora of 1940s, when we brought a sense of humor and relaxed attitude to the rest of the Finland ;-)
LOL, there ya go...

Fictional - Feanor and the Flight of Noldor?
Well, of course, leave it to an Avarin Feanor-sympathizer to choose them!

Seriously... d00d, Eldarin diasporas r0><0r.
The whole concept of a single immortal being being able to single-handedly influence, if not establish from barest essentials, the foundations of an entire people's culture: spoken language, literacy, architecture, music, arms and armor, martial arts - the list goes on. Finrod Felagund was the Noldorin ideal of this with his adoption of the House of Beor; Elu Thingol with the Nandor. These but prefigured the ultimate diaspora, though: the prolongation of the the Realms in Exile (Numenoreans, Moriquendi, and Noldor under Galadriel of Lorien and Elrond of Imladris).

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Banazir
sze
Sep. 24th, 2004 04:06 pm (UTC)
i have some peranakans in my family :)
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 06:27 pm (UTC)
I'll bet you do!
Glad to hear from you.
I've been very quietswamped, but it's going to be a nice(r) weekend.

How have you been?

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Banazir
sze
Sep. 25th, 2004 09:20 pm (UTC)
Re: I'll bet you do!
the past couple weeks have been pretty good.. in terms of being relatively calm :)

i'm way behind on school work tho so i'm going to have to shift gears really soon and start putting in more hours a day on my thesis!

those links you had were very interesting.. i'm going to have to buy those books referenced on that straits chinese website.
banazir
Sep. 25th, 2004 11:33 pm (UTC)
Glad to hear

the past couple weeks have been pretty good.. in terms of being relatively calm :)
Good. My prayers still with Dayni.

i'm way behind on school work tho so i'm going to have to shift gears really soon and start putting in more hours a day on my thesis!
Great! I look forward to reading an abstract if you care to post one.

those links you had were very interesting.. i'm going to have to buy those books referenced on that straits chinese website.
Thanks! I aim to please. :-D
... or at least to provoke and foment. ;-)

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Banazir
digby_tantrum
Sep. 24th, 2004 09:37 pm (UTC)
only the gods are real
the dispersion or spreading of something that was originally localized (as a people or language or culture)

You can have this:

In the beginning, there were no earth and no people, only the primordial sea. Bielobog flew over the face of the waters in the shape of a swan and was lonely. Longing for someone to keep him company, he noticed his shadow, Chernobog and rejoiced.

"Let us make land" said Bielobog.

"Let us," said Chernobog, "but where will we get the dirt?"

"There is dirt under the water, go down and get some," answered Bielobog, "but before you can reach it, you must say 'With Bielobog's power and mine'."

Chernobog dived into the water, but said "With My Power", instead of what he was instructed to say. Twice he dived down and neither time did he reach the bottom. Finally, the third time he said "With Bielobog's Power and Mine" and he reached the dirt. Scraping some up with his nails, he brought it to the surface, but hid a grain of dirt in his mouth in order to have his own land.

God then took the dirt from him and scattered it upon the water. The dirt became dry land, and began to grow. Of course, the land in Chernobog's mouth also began to grow and his mouth began to swell. Chernobog was forced to spit and spit to rid himself of all the earth, and where he spit, mountains were formed.

Angered that he was cheated out of his own land, he waited for Bielobog to fall asleep. As soon as the god was sleeping peacefully, Czernobog lifted him up to throw him in the water. In each direction he went, but the land had grown so much, he could not reach the ocean. When Bielobog awoke, Czernobog said "Look how much the land has grown, we should bless it."

And Bielobog said slyly, "I blessed it last night, in all four directions, when you tried to throw me in the water."

This greatly angered Czernobog who stormed off to get away from Bielobog once and for all. In the meantime, the earth would not stop growing. This made Bielobog very nervous as the Heavens could no longer cover it all, so he sent an expedition to ask Czernobog how to make it stop.

Czernobog had since created a goat. When the expedition saw the great god Czernobog riding astride a goat, they couldn't stop laughing. This angered the god and he refused to speak to them. Bielobog then created a bee, and sent the bee to spy on Czernobog.

The bee quietly alit upon Czernobog's shoulder and waited. Soon, she heard him say to the goat "What a stupid god! He doesn't even know that all he has to do is take a stick, make a cross to the four directions and say 'That is enough earth'. Instead he wonders what to do."

Hearing this, the bee buzzed off in excitement. Knowing that he'd been heard, Czernobog yelled after the bee, "Whoever sent you, Let him eat your excrement!".

The bee went directly to Bielobog and said "He said All you need to do is make a cross to the four directions and say 'That is enough earth.' And to me he said 'let whomever sent you eat your excrement'.

So the god stopped the earth from growing and than said to the bee: "Then forever after, let there be no excrement sweeter than yours."

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MHW

PS: I am not responsible for the inconsistent use of quotes in this story. I have corrected commas, that is all.

PPS: This is not diaspora proper. But it's a nice story. Ergo shush.

PPPS: Have added you to 'friends' list. Don't disappoint me.
burkhardt
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:40 pm (UTC)
How about the obvious?
Let us not forget the dispersing of the Puritans in the founding of the US.
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, never forget
I was hoping someone would bring up an Old World diaspora example.

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Banazir
burkhardt
Sep. 24th, 2004 10:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Oh, never forget
Sadly it seems since the superbowl last year I've been innundated with reminders of this countries puritanical roots :-D
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 11:01 pm (UTC)
Oh, you had to memind me
*sigh*
Oh, well.

They say ties widen and narrow in a 15-year period; perhaps breast coverings have a 1500-year period. Who knows?

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Banazir
burkhardt
Sep. 24th, 2004 11:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Oh, you had to memind me
It's not the breast that needs covering it's the milk delivery valve. ;-)
banazir
Sep. 24th, 2004 11:45 pm (UTC)
Nomenclature
See, now, if more people would just call nipples "lactic delivery valves"...

But then you're going to get me started on the robot/human dating, and nobody wants to read that.

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Banazir
cretaceousrick
Sep. 25th, 2004 10:49 am (UTC)
I'll have to think about this one. Dammit, stop making me think!
banazir
Sep. 25th, 2004 11:37 pm (UTC)
I'll have to think about this one.
You do that...

Dammit, stop making me think!
Will not!

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Banazir
cretaceousrick
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:41 pm (UTC)
Thinking can be fun. It's good to be provoked to do it once in a while.
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