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Warning: extreme geekiness. Won't make much sense unless you're familiar with both canons.

About sixty years before contact was reestablished with Abydos, there were two Tau'ri children who found an Ancient artifact that let them dial out to a boreal planet that served as a multi-gate hub. They visited a planet that proved to be depopulated, where they discovered one of the unascended Ori in cryosuspension who then escaped with them in tow. While they were fleeing the planet that had been devastated by Ori technology, the gate's power source was depleted. The proto-Ori tried to capture the Tau'ri homeworld but was stopped by an ascended being who trapped her on a third world. Unable to dial out, she remained there and began to use her superior technology to dominate the indigenes. The ascended being seeded the new world with two Tau'ri and then shut down the gate on his side. Due to relativistic time dilation, subjective time on the Tau'ri homeworld passed much slower.

After two generations on their world, the Tau'ri discovered some unstable gate technology that let them return to the world where, over a millenium of subjective time, the proto-Ori had gained a foothold. She had enslaved some of the indigenes by virtue of her superior knowledge and abilities, driven other species underground, and even removed the Tau'ri from power in most of her sphere of influence. Of the four gate team members who reestablished contact, she captured one and convinced him to collaborate. The indigenes believed that she had considered recruiting him as a doci, but he proved recalcitrant. She resolved instead to use him to lure the other Tau'ri out of hiding, but they made contact with the ascended being before this plan succeeded. The Tau'ri was extracted by special operations conducted by the indigenes, at which point the proto-Ori invoked the founding charter of the system. The ascended being took the place of the Tau'ri turncoat and was killed in his embodied form, but reascended and returned to destroy the army that the proto-Ori had amassed. After remaining on the ascended being's world for several years, they were gated back to their homeworld in their original state, with their memories intact. This is believed to contravene the Ancients' laws on intervention, which is why the original Tau'ri who witnessed the founding of the ascended being's world did not believe him to be an Ancient.

Ninth Day of Christmas, following my personal LJ tradition (started in 2003):
"The Lion of Judah"
Words: Fanny Crosby (1820-1915)
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Jan. 2nd, 2006 11:38 pm (UTC)
Multi-gate hub?

Surely that's not possible according to Stargate canon? One gate per planet, etc . . .
Jan. 3rd, 2006 12:02 am (UTC)
Well, Earth has two
... there's the original Tau'ri gate from Egypt and the one in Antarctica.

The Wood Between the Worlds really only needs two gates: one for incoming from Earth and one for everywhere else. The problem is that the "pools" actually dry up in the Narniaverse.

Jan. 3rd, 2006 12:07 am (UTC)
Re: Well, Earth has two
Earth has two, but only one of them can be activated at a time, and someone dialling in from elsewhere has no way to know which gate they'd end up at. Also, you can't use one gate to get to another on the same planet.


Intriguing idea though . . . Stargate/Narnia fiction :)
Jan. 3rd, 2006 12:45 am (UTC)
Loosely interpreted
It's a fast-and-loose interpretation. ;-)

The Wood Between the Worlds is more like the Spikard of Merlin that lets him traverse Shadow instantly in Prince of Chaos, last book of the Second Chronicles of Amber (and last of the ten in the Great Book of Amber). It's entirely "transdimensional" in that it lets people gate between AUs. Theoretically Narnia and Charn should not be physically reachable save via the portals or the shadow-shifting devices. You can't get to other points in the Wood save by going to one world and then popping out through another pool, AFAICT.

The "one pool for each world" is the only tricky bit.

There's nothing to indicate that multiple pools can be used at a time. Then again, there's nothing to indicate that dialing takes but an instant or that the pools aren't continuously open, as opposed to open for up to 38 minutes at a time.

I just like that the gate team has four members in both canons. :-D

Jan. 3rd, 2006 12:40 am (UTC)

Jan. 3rd, 2006 12:47 am (UTC)
Minotaur Jaffa and Centaur Tok'ra
You have to admit, minotaur Jaffa are cool. :-D

Jan. 3rd, 2006 01:48 am (UTC)

(Hello. Was linked from kaseido)
Jan. 3rd, 2006 03:34 am (UTC)
Well met!

Wow. Physics Ph.D. from UMich, dissertation on cellular automata, self-organizing systems, and time series? Is that you?

If so, is it OK if I add you? We may have some research interests in common. My dissertation was on unsupervised learning and time series learning (a combined model selection and feature selection and partitioning mechanism for learning ARMA process models using recurrent and time delay ANNs). Later I looked into developing constructive induction techniques that extended this. It's a work in progress, made the more challenging by my goal of using dynamic Bayesian networks and other relational and temporal graphical models as the time series representations.

Jan. 3rd, 2006 04:15 am (UTC)
Headline: Woman dies of shame from mistaken identity
Oops...not it.

I'm a Physics Ph.D., but in solid state and not from UMich. My doctoral work was in renewable energy applications of solid crystals, though I took a M.Eng. in ca & self-organized systems. I dabble in neural mapping these days.

Curiosity assails me, what was your reference?
Jan. 3rd, 2006 05:20 am (UTC)
Re: Headline: Woman dies of shame from mistaken identity
I'm a Physics Ph.D., but in solid state and not from UMich. My doctoral work was in renewable energy applications of solid crystals, though I took a M.Eng. in ca & self-organized systems. I dabble in neural mapping these days.
What kind? fMRI?
You might be interested to know that I wrote the original prototype of BrainMap for Peter Fox in 1990. I was hypertext when hypertext wasn't cool!

Curiosity assails me, what was your reference?
Your user info web page. I trimmed off the "election" part and thought you were Cozma.

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