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(c) 1985 Electronic Arts. Click on the image for the larger and higher-resolution version.

Man, do I feel old!


I was just talking with Victor Holt about massforge and possible applications thereof, and I mentioned The Bard's Tale as a series of computer role-playing games (CRPGs) from the late 80's that was probably before his time.

"Oh, I know The Bard's Tale. That got really good reviews."

It turns out, as I learned from this disambiguation page in Wikipedia, that he was talking about this 2004 remake by InExile Entertainment and not the Electronic Arts version from 1985.

Doesn't anyone remember Wizardry (no bloody II, III, IV, or V)? Or Ultima (1-7), from the Apple ][ days, before it was an MMORPG? Or Might and Magic before "Heroes of" preceded the title? Or Questron, Times of Lore (another Origin game), and the like? How about Sierra On-Line's King's Quest, Quest for Glory, and Leisure Suit Larry series? (I must admit, I played the first two games of the latter when I was still underage. ;-))

I grew up on those games, and it's amusing to go back and reminisce. They never seemed so low-res back in the day! (And we're not talking 1984, we're talking 1989-1991! It was only a long time ago to the younglings of today's college generation.)

Oh, and the other day in CIS 636/736 (Computer Graphics/Advanced Computer Graphics) I discovered that nobody had every heard of a Kaypro "portable computer".
You know, the 20-pound "luggables" with the 6" green or amber screens that were the height of the keyboard that folded into them?

You young whippersnappers! "Back in my day, we played CRPGs on Kaypros with 1x1 resolution... backwards, through the snow, on Sunday afternoon... and we liked it!"



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Apr. 21st, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC)
If it makes you feel better, I'm only 24 and I played Bard's Tale, and I had a Comadore 64 'portable computer' :)

I feel old too sometimes. Like when no one on my f-list knew what a grue was.
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:51 pm (UTC)
*Comments need edit buttons*

I found a listing at Wikipedia of my old Commodore64 portable.
(no subject) - zengeneral - Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:02 am (UTC) - Expand
Trask, beat me to it - banazir - Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:20 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cybercerberus - Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:34 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - prolog - Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
You hear a dull thump. - banazir - Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: You hear a dull thump. - pursuer - Apr. 23rd, 2006 03:10 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: You hear a dull thump. - twinbee - Apr. 23rd, 2006 07:02 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:43 pm (UTC)
i have that poster, AND a kaypro ripoff (honeywell)

so HA
Apr. 21st, 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
Kaypro and Honeywell
If and when you're ever willing to part with it, I have a computer museum with a spot for it! No need to eBay, just sell it to yours truly. :-D

I also need a ][gs and a //c. I miss the old games such as Alien Mind. It was Alien before DOOM, Quake, and Halo came in and made a 3-D mess of things.

That's also why I like that Flash game, The Last Dalek. OK, I also like that one because it's easy enough for someone whose hand-eye coordination is off its peak, as is mine.

Re: Kaypro and Honeywell - twinbee - Apr. 21st, 2006 11:00 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oh, well... - banazir - Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:24 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - miyeko - Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:43 am (UTC) - Expand
BULBASAUR! - banazir - Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:54 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: BULBASAUR! - miyeko - Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:59 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Oh, well... - twinbee - Apr. 22nd, 2006 06:11 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 21st, 2006 09:56 pm (UTC)
bards tale was also way hard

I liked WASTELAND a lot more bc it was easier
Apr. 21st, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
Ah, but did you have the Bard's Tale Solution Guide?
The original BT walkthrough was published in a way that saved you the mapping, but didn't obviate the need to detect traps and the like. I really liked that. Mapping was interesting once or twice, e.g., in Wizardry, but it got a chore after a few hours' worth. Nowadays, people don't map; they just pick up upgrades that automate it and power through. Everything's a power-up. These kids today, with their hair and their clothes! ;-) -- Banazir
(no subject) - cybercerberus - Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:14 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 21st, 2006 11:02 pm (UTC)
I remember my roommate playing Leisure Suit Larry my freshman year in college (2000-2001). Don't know if that was the original, but it was rather low res on the graphics side. : )
Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:28 am (UTC)
Low-res indeed
LSL1 was lower-res than King's Quest on the PCjr, IIRC!

I remember how revolutionary LSL2 was, being VGA and all. :-P

Do you remember when Quest for Glory 3 came out?
It had incredible artwork compared to QFG 1 & 2. I think the Coreys actually went back and remade QFG1 later.

Re: Low-res indeed - pursuer - Apr. 23rd, 2006 03:15 am (UTC) - Expand
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Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:29 am (UTC)
Emulation! Hah!
Simulators, heh!

A Jedi craves not these things!


Apr. 21st, 2006 11:32 pm (UTC)
I played Bard's Tale I & II completely on my own, needed help from a guide at one spot in III. Ultima -- played several of them, as well as Wizardry.

Old? I remember playing Zork in text-only version on my Atari-64.
Of course, years before that friends always came to visit in the evenings because I was the first to have a Pong game, and later the Atari 2600.
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:40 pm (UTC)
Banamum tole me lawaz to wespeck my elders!


Actually, I had an Atari 800 as my first computer. It had 64K of RAM and was a member of the 8-bit (64 words) family. Is that what you meant (600 & 800)?

Apr. 22nd, 2006 01:30 am (UTC)
Ultima IV is and shall be the best game ever.

Speaking of Ultima, has anyone tried the new Ultima V - Lazarus? Would it be worth trying?
Apr. 22nd, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC)
Ultima V: Lazarus
A 3-D fan remake of Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny? Now that looks cool. It may take a long time to finish, though.

On a tangential note, there is a game called Akalabeth: World of Doom that Richard Gariott (Lord British) wrote in 1979. Apparently it's considered the unofficial first game (or zeroth game) of the Ultima genre.

Apr. 22nd, 2006 02:19 am (UTC)
Heroes of Might and Magic and the original King's Quest I have. Peasant's Quest I also know of.
Apr. 22nd, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
I still haven't beaten that, LOL.

Say, did you ever get a chance to send me that "video" icon?

Re: PEASANT'S QUEST!! - wudu_wasa - Apr. 24th, 2006 02:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - wudu_wasa - Apr. 24th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 22nd, 2006 05:31 am (UTC)
We were the first ones on our block with a Commodore Vic-20. I played a mean Space Invaders.
Apr. 22nd, 2006 05:32 am (UTC)
P.S. Black and White. We had no color on our computers back then.
Apr. 22nd, 2006 08:44 pm (UTC)
Black and White
Haha, say "Black and White" to one of the abovementioned kids and see what they think it means...

Re: Black and White - bojojoti - Apr. 23rd, 2006 02:32 am (UTC) - Expand
*You* know, and *I* know - banazir - Apr. 23rd, 2006 02:35 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 22nd, 2006 03:13 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, I remember the Ultima games! My brother got a 486 from the state of New York (he's autistic, so I guess they figured it would help him in school?), and one of the games it came with was Ultima VII. We ended up buying the Ultima Collection a few years later, but I still like VII the best. Good times, man.
Apr. 22nd, 2006 07:15 pm (UTC)
I had a Xerox 8086 as my main computer until 1997, so I'm well-familiar! I remember playing Rogue, Wizardry (the "IBM PC Jr" version), and a number of other games borrowed from friends. I had a bunch of my own, too. Kings Quest and Kings Quest IV (though I lost the manual for the latter in the early 90s, and could never play it again afterwards), the Black Cauldron (my favourite), and maybe one or two other Sierra titles. I also had a 3-D pacman clone called 3-Demon that I loved, as well as a game called Bushido, a really cheesy ninja game.

I have to admit, I was more of a Nintendo kid.
Apr. 23rd, 2006 12:47 am (UTC)
When I was four, I used to play with my mum's word processor on this hulking behemoth of a laptop and think it was bliss. Until I got to elementary school, and the nerd baffled me with tales of Zork and the like, I didn't get to play games ;_;

I did however, beat Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy without any help! I strutted around like I was the queen until I found out that the game was based on a book, and that anyone who read it would know how to beat it >_>
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