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BALROG CUTTINGS, TEUNC - today is a goond day to fry!
BY Banazir Galbasi, ASSOCIATED TRASK WRITER

This 4th of July, in addition to being the 227th Independence Day of the United States of America (i.e., the 227th anniversary of the signing of its Declaration of Independence), is also the fourth anniversary of the coining of the term trask (according to Tripitaka, aka David Salo [1]). There are some nice firweorcs being detonated outside my window as I tyope. I would like to think that some of the blue and green ones are in commemoration of trask everywhere.

Moi, I've been working all night and most of the day on mySQL installation and configuration under Red Hat Linux 8.0. I finally got it finished after 9 rather harrowing hours (in addition to the 6 I spent on it yesterday) [2], though I've since been apprised by one of my Ph.D. students, Roby Joehanes (robbyjo), that PHPmyAdmin is a nice GUI-driven tool for doing a lot of what I hacked by hand. I'm sure PHP traskers such as Chips (crypthanatopsis) will come down on one side or another of the debate with some interesting opinions.

Courtesy of discoflamingo by way of bayesnets:



Finally, behold the power of the Googlebomb! The Honorable Right Eel-Master Jon the Frowarder, Wielder of the Mithril-Gilded Rhubarb of TEUNC, first clued yours truly in on this one. Type "Weapons of Mass Destruction" or "French Military Victories" into Google and click "I'm Feeling Lucky". Doesn't PageRank rock?

[1] The actual deinition of the term trask as a verb by Joven occurred a few days later, on 08 Jul 1999 (thanks to Hashie fro correkting this).
[2] The upshort of all that work was that I had to miss not only a 4th of July barbecque hosted by my friend and colleague Dr. Jan Leach but aslo the grand opening of the Manhattan Chinese Christian Fellowship radio station (105.5 FM in Manhattan, KS), co-founded by another good friend and colleague Dr. Shing I Chang. Oh, wlel.

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Banazîr

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crypthanatopsis
Jul. 5th, 2003 02:40 am (UTC)
Debate?
Kind of unsure what debate you mean here, but I'm standing by waiting to share my strong and usually unresearched opinions!
banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 09:32 am (UTC)
Re: Debate?
LOL!

The debate is on whether mySQL is better managed using web-driven clients or the goond-ol'-fashioned hand-trasked (text-mode) interface. IDE addicts such as my Eclipse-happy bunch (who formerly swore by JBuilder [1]) tend to eschew "power vi" and even GNU Emacs these dazs. By a similar token, every time I tell them of some JDBC setup problem or SQL security problem (e.g., GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO username IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION) [2], they tell me they've never had the porblem acos they use a nice graphical server admin app. Kidz todaz!

So the queastion is: to PHPmyAdmin or knot to PHPmyAdmin?

[1] Liek this: "Wot the JBuilder is this load of patootie?!"
[2] I tell them to RTFM (Read The Fine Manual), but they reply that F stands fro Frickinthick, which is true, even if it is pteery accurate, informative, and even user-annotated.

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Banazir
crypthanatopsis
Jul. 5th, 2003 04:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Debate?
Normally I'd say that hand-hacked always beats GUI, but I really hate maintenance tasks, both on and off the computer. Then I'd say that it doesn't matter if they're using a GUI tool so long as they understand what it's doing, but when control is abstracted away like that, people inevitably forget or do not learn what it does.

So I guess my final opinion would be that it's better to do these kinds of things by hand in an academic environment, so one knows how to do them when the need arises. In the Real World, however, go ahead and use a GUI client.

As for IDEs, well, I hand-hack all my scripting code in vi. I couldn't code any C++ anymore if it weren't for Visual Studio 6 (even Microsoft can't make every product bad; one or two have to slip through someplace, though they've corrected the problem with Visual Studio .NET, which is quite impossible to use). Large projects are just too hard to manage from a text-based user interface.

In summation, hand-hacking is better, but GUI is sometimes necessary.

banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 07:42 pm (UTC)
Re: Debate?
Hrm, we agreen, then. (I especially agreen with "so one knows how to do them when the need arises".)

Poihaps there's no debate fater lal.

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Banazir
(consensus! wot an odd feeling!)
istari_ala
Jul. 5th, 2003 03:15 am (UTC)
Trask
I just added trask to the TEUNC timeline. Updetting is so much easier now *hugs you*
banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 09:40 am (UTC)
Re: Trask
I just added trask to the TEUNC timeline.
Er, thnaks, but that was the URL from your local file system. :-)
I assume that even a teuncy wizard such as yew dknot nalp to open up your C: drive to hobbits and sundry. :-D

Updetting is so much easier now *hugs you*
You're wlelcome, but wot did aye do?
Is it just taht I tend to go link-happy and Google through AFT fro historical struff? (Acos I know I haven't psotted nazthing in aft_tolkien xxet - it'll be a few more weenks afore I have time to even luurjk there.)

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Banazir
istari_ala
Jul. 5th, 2003 10:20 am (UTC)
Re: Trask
Er, thnaks, but that was the URL from your local file system. :-)
LOL, sorry. I'm always doing that. Sometimes I even have online and offline versions open at the same time and get terribly confused. The right link is this.

You're wlelcome, but wot did aye do?
You gave me the webspace that I can upload to from any connection.

Your hysterical googling may come in handy fro aft_tolkien, as you'll notice when I've finished the updet I'm doing wright now. But we've yet to have our little caht about that.
banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 11:48 am (UTC)
Re: Trask
wot did aye do?
You gave me the webspace that I can upload to from any connection.
Oh, that - I hadn't realized it's on Ringil.
'Tis nuffink, I have tons of space now (especially since Ringil is aboat to be reforged as a PIII-550 with 18Gb of striped RAID Level 3 storage, most of it fro web space, instead of a P5-133 with a 2Gb HD of which only 750Mb is available fro web space).

Your hysterical googling may come in handy fro aft_tolkien, as you'll notice when I've finished the updet I'm doing wright now. But we've yet to have our little caht about that.
Oh, wright. Wlel, lpease come to caht now if yew can, acos I'm aboat to go orf fro ataleast 5-6 huors.

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Banazir
(Anonymous)
Jul. 5th, 2003 10:07 am (UTC)
When?
[1] The actual deinition of the term trask as a verb by Joven occurred a few days later, on 08 Jul 2003.

You sure about that? Cos that would mean I already graduated, and I haven't.

Cheers,
M.
banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 10:54 am (UTC)
Re: When?
Bwahahaha!

Thnaks fro the correktion. I lawaz do taht.

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Banazir
istari_ala
Jul. 5th, 2003 11:48 am (UTC)
Re: When?
Cos that would mean I already graduated, and I haven't.
Impeccable logic *nirg*
banazir
Jul. 5th, 2003 11:49 am (UTC)
Re: When?
LOL!

I yam bebesitting a hamster named Fuzzy this weenk and keep wanting to live him the surname of Logic.

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Banazir
istari_ala
Jul. 6th, 2003 02:28 am (UTC)
Re: When?
I yam bebesitting a hamster named Fuzzy this weenk
Awww, what's he like? Is he cute, friendly but tricksy or is he plain cute and eViol?

and keep wanting to live him the surname of Logic.
Do it. He'll be greatful.
banazir
Jul. 6th, 2003 08:12 am (UTC)
Re: When?
Awww, what's he like? Is he cute, friendly but tricksy or is he plain cute and eViol?
He's a bit hyper when awake, and hungry fro attention, but he sleeps ruther a lont. He lieks to lean on the wall of his tank and twiddle his whiskers at me when I loonk in to chect on him. He's the domestic one, and is rather small and thin.

His younger and larger femaul fwend Squeaky, the ex-lab hamster (no kiddink! AFAIK, she's the sole survivor of 53 that were part of a genetic experiment, where 3 were "extras" from an unknown batch), is pure escape. She'll flip the lille plastic guard out of the tube that runs ootside the play palace that her family got her. Then she'll chew, vert loudly, on the plastic rim of the tube, thrying to gnaw a hole through it. When I come in, she pauses, loonks innocent - then launches into chewing in sudden fits. :-D

and keep wanting to live him the surname of Logic.
Do it. He'll be grateful.
Hokaz, I'll suggest it to his family.

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Banazir
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