Blade Remade, or That'll Teach Me

banazir

Jan. 28th, 2004 09:44 pm (UTC)

Re: Another Emerson Drive Fan

Another Emerson Drive Fan
Heh, that was the first time I've heard that song.

I'm not alone any more! ;-)
Were you alone afore?

Smile!
Welcome!
Nice to meet you.

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hfx_ben

Jan. 28th, 2004 04:10 pm (UTC)

*shock and awe!*

ktsk-ktsk, mon cher ... your theme song link initiated an application download, viz ... from you, benevolent no doubt, but ...

banazir

Jan. 28th, 2004 09:40 pm (UTC)

ktsk-ktsk, mon cher
Hay!
Noly teuncettes get to call me "mon cher".
Wlokaz, adn Maggie (

hempknight).
And Mr. Frodo, and that's a fact.

your theme song link initiated an application download, viz ... from you, benevolent no doubt, but ...
Ewww.
Do you use a pop-up blocker such as Google Toolbar?
(If it came through anyway, I rapologize.)

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yahvah

Jan. 28th, 2004 04:33 pm (UTC)

Achtung: The blade has been applied. Ahh, sweet hobbitty hairlessness. Thanks be.

I need one of these, too. I think I'll go to the mall this evening and have that done. I'm looking real scruffy.

banazir

Jan. 28th, 2004 10:03 pm (UTC)

Wot?

Achtung: The blade has been applied.
I need one of these, too. I think I'll go to the mall this evening and have that done. I'm looking real scruffy.
You dknot own a razor?

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celandineb

Jan. 28th, 2004 06:09 pm (UTC)

You are my witnesses - that will teach me to sign thesis cover pages after a final proofreading but before I have seen the changes committed. Grr.

Yikes. Yeah, that's a drag. Nice citation you stuck in there. ;-)

We're doing a plagiarism exercise in one of my classes tomorrow - they don't have to do actual footnotes for their first paper, but they do have to cite if they quote, at least. Of course these are only undergrads, in a freshman-level class...

Celandine

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banazir

Jan. 28th, 2004 09:30 pm (UTC)

And gladly teach

Yikes. Yeah, that's a drag.
Yeah, and it kindasorta correlates with the back-to-back all-nighters.

Nice citation you stuck in there. ;-)
Thansk!

We're doing a plagiarism exercise in one of my classes tomorrow - they don't have to do actual footnotes for their first paper, but they do have to cite if they quote, at least. Of course these are only undergrads, in a freshman-level class...
One hopes that they will learn by the time they are M.S. students.
Mine dknot.
(Well, from now on, if they are, they will...
or they will be ~~flayed~~flogged with a ~~wet noodle~~whip of many trasks.)

Re: plagiarism -

f00dave and I had a brief discussion on this recently.

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celandineb

Jan. 28th, 2004 09:45 pm (UTC)

One hopes that they will learn by the time they are M.S. students.

One hopes, indeed!

My uni has a two-tier approach to this - if it's considered that the intent was not to deceive or cheat, it's "academic misconduct" (for ex: letting someone see your paper, but not knowingly allowing them to copy it; or plagiarizing because you didn't know that's what you were doing); if on the other hand there was deliberate intent to misrepresent and gain undeserved intellectual credit (for ex: plagiarizing after it had been explained to you, or stealing a copy of the exam beforehand), then it's "academic dishonesty" and the penalties can be higher. Can't fail the whole course for academic misconduct, but can for academic dishonesty.

So what I do is work up an exercise in which the students see a short chunk of text from one of their books, and then are presented with six or so examples of how someone might have used this in a paragraph in a paper. They have to think about which of these examples qualify as plagiarism, and why, and how they could be fixed. It seems to work reasonably well as a teaching tool, and takes maybe 10-15 minutes of class time usually, not a bad time investment.

I'd love to see what it would take to actually flay someone with a wet noodle!

Celandine

PS - snaffle the icon if you want! I made that one, so feel free...

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f00dave

Feb. 1st, 2004 03:06 am (UTC)

Re: And gladly teach

Re: plagiarism - f00dave and I had a brief discussion on this recently.

Yes, we did, one in which I still have a reply window open in another Mozilla tab. I also have another three tabs with various and sundry (non-meme, non-quiz) posts/comments open that have your name on 'em. I will get to them. Eventually.

We're crunching to get the English and definitional changes laid into The Infinity Paper ASAP. I'm generating figures in parallel, and noodling away on some ideas for the example that will thread through it ... but it's slow going.

Oh, and marking and plagiarism stuff takes time, too, as does taking pictures of my wife and her friend's bellydance performance tonight. The fun! It NEVER ENDS! MORE FUN! MORE FFFFFFFFUUUUUUNNNNN. WE DEMAND MORE FUN. GIVE ME THE MORE FUN NOW, FOR IT IS PRECIOUS TO MEEEEEEEEE. THE FUN. Brain. FUN. Imploding. FUNMOREFUNMOREMOREMOREHARRYPOTTER. Harry Potter?

Oh dear, I think I'm over the edge. Better just post. ;-)

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carida_46

Jan. 29th, 2004 01:04 am (UTC)

academic adrenalin

It's amazing how much research one can get done when one stops eating and sleeping.
...waaaay bax before you were born when I was a student with energy and enthusiasm, it was a documented fact that hunger sharpened the brain..of course it was probably an excuse to starve us..........
Lack of sleep on the other hand......... :-(