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Speaker for The Living

This has been an interesting week.
I've been called upon by many people in teunc to give "readings" on their several personalities and life situation. Apparently I'm seen as an astute judge of character, which is news indeed to me.1 Even more suprisingly to me, the same thing has happened in a couple of other groups, including my KDD lab. In all groups, some who haven't actually sought it have really needed it. I suppose we all need someone to tell us who we are sometimes. I only hope that my remarks are of some use.

This really is odd, as I remember thinking when I read Orson Scott Card's Speaker For The Dead that I didn't really have that gift. I still think it's because I hang around with TEUNCs more online than some people hang out in person, but well, my mileage may vary. Who mourns for Ender Wiccan?

Happy St. Valentine's Day to those who are blessed with someone with whom to share it! (And happy Singles' Awareness Day to everybuddy else. :o))
In any case, have a look at something sparkly from masteralida.

1 I should add that I really don't think I quite qualify as a Speaker, because I am mediocre at sensing when someone is going to do something - for lack of a better world - appalling. OTOH, perhaps it's more that I see it coming, but hold back out of wishful thinking? In any case, Speakers almost never tell you what you want to hear, but they almost always tell you what you need to hear.



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Feb. 15th, 2004 06:18 pm (UTC)
Like I said before....ohhh...white gold or platinum please! That goes best with what I have. ;-)

Feb. 15th, 2004 07:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Sparkly!!
Like I said before....ohhh...white gold or platinum please!
That goes best with what I have. ;-)

And what's that?

(And you mean for the setting?
Or are you asking for a gold star? :-D)

(acos ithildin is about as close as we can get :-P)
Re: Sparkly!! - oxbastetxo - Feb. 15th, 2004 09:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
Speed Reader, or not - banazir - Feb. 15th, 2004 09:48 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Speed Reader, or not - oxbastetxo - Feb. 15th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 15th, 2004 06:34 pm (UTC)
Quick side note, since that's all I have time for right now: Archie Comics has Pop's Choklit Shop in it, and an SF book I flipped through at the bookstore had a villin named Trask. Odd, yes. Interesting, not really. And so, I click Post Comment.
Feb. 15th, 2004 07:55 pm (UTC)
Archie Comix: Pop's CHOKLIT shop and Trask
Quick side note, since that's all I have time for right now: Archie Comics has Pop's Choklit Shop in it, and an SF book I flipped through at the bookstore had a villin named Trask.
Prolly a coinkydink, but you never know.

Odd, yes. Interesting, not really.
Interesting, yes, acksherly.
Thanks for sharing!

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Feb. 15th, 2004 08:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Weedings?
Who, when, what did I miss, can I sign up for one?
sui_degeneris, gondhir, narvi, myself, and a few other TEUNCs (rodent, ent); this with scottharmon and hermes_imagod; and the earlier dialogues (from last month) with baharirion, yahvah, and wondergurl_77.

No need to sign up; here goes.
*cleansing breath* ;-D

What you've told me (through comments): You believe in basic human compassion, in openness, in thoughtfulness and respect for people's feelings. Conversely, like many of our friends, you don't take yourself too seriously. You don't see the point in many dialogues and endless debates. To you, on a lot of issues, east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet. This includes: religion, many sociocultural issues, and some socioeconomic issues. You are curious about many world cultures (including East Asia, especially China and Japan). For example, you're always fascinated by East Asian idioms and would like to learn Chinese someday.

You are an only child with prodigious talent, who works in an academic area that overlaps with both of her academic parents'.

More than any property of a mate, you cannot stand to see lack of drive to realize one's potential. This is more important to you than circumstantially unrealized potential or lack of confidence alone.

What you "haven't" said but have told me (through your art, your relationships, and your life): You are a very open-minded person who nevertheless gets less out of "debate-ridden" dialogue than others. To you, that they lead nowhere is the be-all and end-all of it. You see no point in stirring that pot. You take your time thinking more on creative issues (which you take seriously, as a professional), but have your mind dead-set on others such as moral dilemmas. You take ironic amusement in idees fixes, whether they be patriotic jingoism or religious dogma.

You've learned not to let closed-mindedness get to you, but the effect this has on you is that you have a "take it or leave it" attitude toward certain stances. For example, your own meta-dogma is that people should show inquisitiveness about culture, geography, etc. that is commensurate with their "need to know". i.e., if someone has an interest in something, they should show curiousity. This is the way you are, and like many other only children, you tend to expect the same of others more than most children with siblings. You are a caring and considerate person in you own way, stepping very lightly around people's feelings when you see them as sincere and "legitimate", but you don't believe in mollycoddling. This leads to the perception that you can sometimes be callous about it.

You are a modest and unassuming person when it comes to your own talent, less so in interpersonal relationships. Your friends are similarly chosen: you want someone who can push you and won't mind being pushed by you.

How's that?

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Re: Weadings, knot weedings - banazir - Feb. 15th, 2004 09:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 15th, 2004 08:14 pm (UTC)
Apparently I'm seen as an astute judge of character, which is news indeed to me
Nah, it's just amusing to read. Like the horoscopes...
Feb. 15th, 2004 09:16 pm (UTC)
Nah, it's just amusing to read. Like the horoscopes...

Beware the ides of February.
I see large Marine creatures in your future.
Not all discharges are unpleasant.
You will soon take an overseas trip that will make you very happy.
You will travel to Kansas... and you will like it.
Drive carefully, especially on long trips.
Confucius said: A man who lives in a stone house should not throw glass.

Re: Weadings - oxbastetxo - Feb. 15th, 2004 09:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Weadings - siocled - Feb. 15th, 2004 11:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Weadings - banazir - Feb. 16th, 2004 09:13 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 16th, 2004 04:14 am (UTC)
I am intrigued (and perhaps, a wee bit tipsy). Think we've known each other long enough for you to do one?
Feb. 16th, 2004 10:08 am (UTC)
Reading for masteralida
I am intrigued (and perhaps, a wee bit tipsy).
AOL! AIM!1!!!
omg wtf lol ql ql thx
How did this become a meme?
Blame Thank jereeza, I guess.

Think we've known each other long enough for you to do one?
Hmm... just barely, but OK!
("Always in motion the people are... damn Dramamine I need.")

What you've told me in words: You are a wife and mother who thinks she looks older than she is, a Sicilian by birth, a Mexican-American by marriage, and a FoE by the grace of God. You have counselled your precocious daughter about safety on the net and have been thinking about her future progress through secondary school and towards college. You officially belong to a modern Mennonite congregation (it'd better be modern, or you shouldn't be posting in LJ ;-)) that, for all intents and purposes, is similar to a mainstream Protestant one. Your husband's work takes him away from home quite often and for long periods.

What you "haven't" said but have told me through actions: You don't take much in the way of crap. Like many mothers, you are thoughtful and responsible; unlike many mothers, you are always thinking of the impact of your decisions and your husband's (educational, occupational, etc.) on your daughter's development. You are happy enough with the PA educational system or you'd have her in private school, if not home schooling.

Your leadership characteristics manifest in the way you role-play (though your characters are spread out, in some ways along ego/superego/id lines, as with many FoE members'). Your apparent age isn't in the shape of your face, in any lines on it, or the color or style of your hair; it's in your mature comportment. Like darana, you exude respectability, for all that you demur and shrug it off with an evening glass of wine. phawkwood and I are in one equivalence class of age with you, but our brand of levity affords us less gravitas (read: gets us labeled as funny men if not silly boys), even though both of you can be raucously funny when you put your mind to it. It is a fine line.

People flock to your banner. Just as an example, your lead is somewhat followed in FoE. To a small extent this is because of your strong net presence (you are online many hours a day and in many different IM, weblog, and wireless SMS media; you administer some of the online activities such as foejournals and the Jedi Council meeting alerts by e-mail; you post an average of one LJ entry per day - even more now - and have the most longeval LJ). To a greater extent, it is because you facilitate - start things up, keep things going. Another facilitatory thing I see you do, which no other FoE does quite as much, is to pull back your own reactions and opinions and ask for clarification in order to generate a dialogue and preempt assumptive RP.

The above is only a mundane example.
Much less visible but just as appreciated by your friends is the warmth and receptiveness with which you listen to problems and lend real advice, not just what people necessarily want to hear. You are kind and caring without being judgemental. You can be serious, grave, sardonic, and even firm-handed when you need to be, but you care about fairness and thus make a strong effort to deliver it.

Re: Reading for masteralida - masteralida - Feb. 16th, 2004 01:49 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for masteralida - banazir - Feb. 16th, 2004 06:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 16th, 2004 08:22 am (UTC)
Hey! A bandwagon! Cllo!
Could you do mine as well?
Feb. 16th, 2004 11:32 pm (UTC)
Reading for nath_herelf
Aww, and I still hafta finish the interview meme and the 13 interviews that people wrote fro me!

But no prob, here goes.

What you've told me (in teunc chat and posts): You are a clerical administrator who works at an academic institute for mathematics (and science?). You have a formidable personality and exercise it as needed. When things don't go your way, you don't take them lying down, but you also do not go ballistic.

You think birds and people are scared of your singing, are very tall, and wouldn't be averse to a close introduction to Legolas, Elladan, and Elrohir. I seem to remember that you also own a third time-share in Spike from BTVS/Angel.

What you "haven't" said but have told me (through your stories and your oblique remarks): You have a strong personality, and it isn't all about your height. One of your mottos might be "go with the flow", for all that you resist lemmingness in social, religious, and other venues. For example, in dealing with your bad neighbor, you prefer to let the inexorability of the building's demise (scheduled in a couple of years) take care of the issue. Only with the neighbor who was into hardcore drugs did you feel action was really needed. You are not lazy or complacent, but you believe in the Zen of the inevitable. This shows in the way you follow up to TEUNC threads: the cascades, the back-and-forth "conversational" ones (with gondhir, me, the Count, etc.), and the replies-upon-return to "away for a few days" threads.

You are a very good storyteller, and this comes across not only in your hobby (fanfic editing and writing), but also in your personal anecdotes (travellogues) and meta-humor. You know the inner workings of academia and are wry, but not so much as cynical and bitter, about them.

How's that?

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Re: Reading for nath_herelf - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 08:15 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for nath_herelf - mrowe - Feb. 18th, 2004 08:11 am (UTC) - Expand
Friends come knocking - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 08:17 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 16th, 2004 09:46 am (UTC)
Sure! Why Not!?
Just what the doctor ordered. Someone to tell me what an indescribable bastard I am.

But if I turn out gay, you die!

Danger is my middle name
Feb. 16th, 2004 11:57 pm (UTC)
Reading for hempknight
Just what the doctor ordered. Someone to tell me what an indescribable bastard I am.
But if I turn out gay, you die!

All right... but actually, you are quite describabibble.
That's mostly because I will now cheat and use answers you gave me in your interview.

What you've told me (through comments): You are 25 years old, originally from Serbia, and live in Utrecht within sighting distance of mrowe (supposedly). You post 99% drivel to teunc and other online fora, and so do not expect to be taken seriously, whether you are being humorously ironic or now. You recently got out of a long-term relationship and would like to be introduced to Yoj's (allegedly) stewardess-wannabe Japanese friend. You love kids, especially your niece, and would love to have a little daughter of your own.

The old nickname Auggie derives from your RL name, which I will not utter here. You took the name Magenta Danger Divine from The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Austin Powers.

You are very good with computers and especially with networks. To you, working for Microsoft is only a job, and you prefer to do other things on your downtime.

What you "haven't" said but have told me (through your art, your relationships, and your life): Your biggest and most poorly-kept secret is that you actually do care what people think about you. I watched you debate in #teunc with jereeza on the subject of discrimination in the former Yugoslavia (in December, 1999 and January, 2000 - remember, I never forget anything of personal or social import). In this conversation, she indicated that she did harbor some prejudices about Serbians (even though, IIRC, her mom is of Serbian descent). You were actually quite concerned about this, though you tried to laugh it off. As it happens, you laugh a lot of things off. This is both a very good and a potentially bad thing. You don't take offense easily. That's good. It's hard to penetrate your shell and get you to fully reveal your feelings. That's not so good.

You make yourself out to be a very libertarian, postmodern hippie kid who is ultra-cool and out to buck every establishment. In reality, you are a somewhat libertarian, tronkie kid who has a smart mouth and is actually much smarter, more sensitive, and more eminently normal than he takes credit for. (You'll have an urge to declare me a lying, flaming troll for this, or even swear out a death warrant, but it's a front, and you know it.) As it happens, you don't want people to realize how normal you are because you want to be special, popular, and renowned for your eccentricity. Well, your secret is safe with me--- oops. ;-)

You enjoy transgender and gender-ambiguous humor, hence your nick in teunc (Magenta) and your flamboyant style. You also enjoy drug humor, hence your LJ nick (hempknight). You like to bait people to make them a little uncomfortable, but unlike bullies, deep down you do it to entertain (mainly yourself, but also others). You really don't derive any enjoyment from discomfiture of people. As I said, you actually care that you aren't hurting them, for all that you say you don't care what they think of you. What you really mean is that you don't care about social sanctions (such as being banned from TORn or LJ) - not nearly as much as you prefer to "push the envelope". Nor do you care what people think of the 7-kimonos deep vestments1 of Magenta, who - sadly, I must turn up the footlights - is not you.

You are actually good at what you do, and enjoy it more than you admit. At the least, you have the same tronkie technolust as the rest of us.

As I said the other day in IM, you are worth knowing, and I'm glad to count myself among your friends.
(I forgot to say so to masteralida and mrowe, so you must just be more compelling. Or annoying. ;-))

1 Now, go and have a nice little animé-oriented autolemon fantasy over that, there's a good teunc.

Re: Reading for hempknight - hempknight - Feb. 17th, 2004 11:22 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for hempknight - part 1 of 2 - banazir - Feb. 17th, 2004 05:18 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for hempknight - part 2 of 2 - banazir - Feb. 17th, 2004 05:20 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for hempknight - part 2 of 2 - hempknight - Feb. 17th, 2004 09:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
Call yourelf a PJF? - part 1 of 2 - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 10:13 am (UTC) - Expand
Call yourelf a PJF? - part 2 of 2 - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 10:14 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Call yourelf a PJF? - part 2 of 2 - hempknight - Feb. 18th, 2004 11:05 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Call yourelf a PJF? - part 2 of 2 - banazir - Feb. 28th, 2004 03:10 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Herzegovinans - banazir - Feb. 17th, 2004 04:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 16th, 2004 02:14 pm (UTC)
So now I'm curious. Might I have a reading?
Feb. 17th, 2004 05:54 am (UTC)
Reading for ldymlissa
So now I'm curious.
Might I have a reading?

So now you might! :-)

What you've told me (in your interviews, FoE chats, IM, and posts): You started out in the life sciences and wanted to be a veterinary biologist before a harsh professor sapped your self-confidence in that area. You are a very experienced performer (dancer and vocalist) and earned a B.A. in vocal performance and an M.S. in music therapy after your B.S. in biology. You would now like to either pursue a career in music therapy as an educational profession or start your own business. You have a randy lovebird named Luna whom you adore (and frequently tolerate :-)). You think of yourself as an enigma and a mystery in Mesoamerican history, the quintessence of perfection that is she (err, sorry, possessed by Disney for a sec).

You believe in the principle of carpe diem, especially taking exciting opportunities such as field work with a (veterinary?) rescue squad. You don't seek out experiences with technology, but your job presents you with many user opportunities.

You see blogs and message boards as different media - blogs as online journals or diaries with a cathartic function, whether they are public or screened (friends-locked), message boards as truly public fora. Like masteralida, this is an intrinsic property of online journals to you, and a matter of etiquette (an established social tradition) rather than something to "legislate", as it were.

You view legal bans on homosexual marriage as based in ignorance and hypocrisy, and find it hard to get into the mindset of those who would impose such bans and sanctions.

What you "haven't" said but have told me (through your stories and your remarks): Being an experienced stage performer, you are more private about your feelings and personal experiences than about your identity and life history. To you, this is a carefully chosen compromise between what you call exhibitionism (public venting and catharsis) and privacy, the feeling of security from unwanted observation (and possible stalking). While this is not uncommon in itself, you deliberately walk a fine balance because it isn't in your semi-extroverted nature to hide away.

You are quite idealistic, as your quiz results and some of your entries show. Though you are highly educated and have plenty of work and social experience, and are anything but naive, your writings are still a mix of youthful idealism and adult savvy. You are confident but have very little, if any, hubris. You also have a strong nurturing instinct, not only as a caretaker of animals. In my opinion, from what I know of you, you have good qualifications as a mother.

It's an honor to get to know you, Nee.
I think that's true for all of us.

Re: Reading for ldymlissa - ldymlissa - Feb. 18th, 2004 03:54 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Reading for ldymlissa - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 03:56 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 16th, 2004 05:09 pm (UTC)
:waves a lemming hand:
Feb. 16th, 2004 06:08 pm (UTC)
:waves a lemming hand:

Reading for deire - banazir - Feb. 18th, 2004 03:22 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 26th, 2004 09:25 am (UTC)
Do a reading on me!!
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